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ImageMistirose
Apr 7, 2015 1:23 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
RedLeopard

I had always loved them but was never able to keep them alive until some ladies in another cubits group had a "bog Contest" We had a lot of fun, learned a lot and they even shared lots of seeds and babies to play with. I then picked up the ebook from cobraplant.com and learned even more. that is my CP bible. In our move and over winters and such I have lost several, but still have seeds to plant yet. My husband likes to knock out flies and ask if I need to feed them Hilarious! I have 2 neps indoors, a VFT and a few tropical Sundews outside now enjoying the weather. I would love to grow a cobra lily but the one I got did not survive. Sad

Star

I believe its what they call damping off? it keeled over and the stem had shriveled. Prob neglect waiting on the rains to stop long enough for us to finish the garden. I started new seed last night, hopefully I can fast track them.
Imagerisingcreek
Apr 7, 2015 9:32 PM CST
Name: kacee
southern california
hi its Vanessa--Gram and I got tons of things planted over the easter break, and some are already coming up. so many flowers, tomatoes, peppers I cant wait for all my purple flowers to bloom. just hoping no frost comes along and wipes everything out!

glad the shrimp plants are growing for everyone, it is one of my favorites
Flinter
Apr 8, 2015 3:30 AM CST
Name: Flinter
The Netherlands
starlight1153 wrote:



Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing I remember the first time I tried to grow them. I didn't know about the spots and I went crazy trying everything I could think of to treat those plants. *Blush*





These are my seedling of the Cerinte. No spots on the leaves yet. I started them inside. Do you think the spots will come later when i put them outside?

Did you noticed that one seed of this plant gives two seedlings?


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poisondartfrog
Apr 8, 2015 4:56 AM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
Maybe the spots will be on the true leaves that look like they are just developing when they get larger, Ella. I don't think you find them on the cotyledons.

I think this is going to be a new favorite for me, Borage 'Bill Archer'. I'm a sucker for variegated foliage on old favorites so I am growing this one, as well as variegated Hesperis matronalis this year.
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ImageRedLeopard
Apr 8, 2015 7:22 AM CST
Name: Ron
Naples, FL

Hey, Flinter!

The Blue Daisy seed I got from you have sprouted and are doing well!

As Alana mentioned, the spots don't really show up until you have true leaves that are a little larger.

You also mentioned that one of the seeds produced two seedlings. Looks to me like at least a couple have done so. I'm glad you mentioned it, as in the photo I posted above, I said there were six seedlings, but actually it was from three seed.

I had pre-soaked and sowed four seed, three of which were heavy and sank immediately, the forth was a floater that was still floating the next day. As expected, only three seed sprouted, but all three were bi-embryonic. Thumbs up

So, only three seed and the pot is already looking over-full! I wasn't expecting the side branches, and had been considering, when I first installed them into the large patio pot, what I would put around them for filler. Guess I won't need to worry about that any more! Hilarious!

While I'm on the subject, I received some Cerinthe major 'Yellow Gem' in response to my wish-list. There was a generous portion of seed, but unfortunately, when pre-soaked, all were floaters, and as expected, none sprouted. Crying

So if anyone is growing one of the yellow forms of C. major like 'Yellow Gem', please try to save seed this year, as I (for one) will be asking for them! Smiling Smiling Smiling

poisondartfrog
Apr 8, 2015 7:37 AM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
Who needs flowers with this foliage? Black Velvet Rose Geranium from Mindy in the piggy swap:
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Snapdragon Frosted Flames (F2?) from bxncbx:
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Deebie
Apr 8, 2015 6:54 PM CST
Name: Deborah
Orangeburg, SC Zone 8a
Don't Sweat the Small Stuff!
Alana, you're right. They're both beautiful and hold their own without them. Thumbs up
Imagestarlight1153
Apr 8, 2015 9:38 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Quoting:
These are my seedling of the Cerinte. No spots on the leaves yet. I started them inside. Do you think the spots will come later when i put them outside?

Did you noticed that one seed of this plant gives two seedlings?


Flinter How neat! I sure would save seed from it. Never know if it might be something special.

There are three types of Cerinthe that I know of. The very first one I ever grew did not have spots on its leaves at all and had beautiful cascading purplish/blue flowers on it, which is why I kinda freaked when the next time I grew some years later, I had the plant with the spots.

The spotted foliage to me was lighter in color than the solid and it still had the same type of blooms. I though the spotted foliage one was more of a floppy plant, where the one without the spots I actually put a little stake with it as the branches got so heavy from the foliage.

Then there is the one that has the yellow , I call droop blooms. Pretty, but I prefer the solid leaf with purple blooms. That is the one I have yet to find seed of again. I look at pics and they don't show the spotted leaves and I buy the seed and then get disappointed that it not the one I really want.

Quoting: While I'm on the subject, I received some Cerinthe major 'Yellow Gem' in response to my wish-list. There was a generous portion of seed, but unfortunately, when pre-soaked, all were floaters, and as expected, none sprouted.


Red, you got any seed left. If you haven't already, try a tiny nick and soak in warm water with a bunch of hydrogen peroxide. Usually works after several days. I just change to fresh water everyday and add more hydrogen peroxide. Lots of seed that is viable will be a floater.

Poison How pretty. I really like that Borage and I agree who can resist the foliage of the Black Velvet Geranium series.

I can't wait to see what you get from Snapdragon Frosted Flames (F2?) If it is a F2 it should have some interesting foliage and flowers maybe, unless it comes true.

Here's something I wrote and posted thatyou might or might not be interested in as who knows it one day may affect even all market growers and those having plant sales at their residences.

"I just got this months new Digger Magazine and was surprised by an article I read.

It seems that Home Depot is now requiring anybody who supplies plants to the company that have been treated with neonicotinoids to have an additional tag letting the customers know the plant has been exposed to chemicals.

The tag has a small pic of plant at top and then the following:

This plant is protected from problematic

than in black, bold, capital letters, underlined

Aphids
White Flies
Beetles
Mealy Bugs

Tag must be 1" by 4.5" for all plant material.

From what I read HD , it seems is worried about neonicotinoid insecticides affecting pollinator populations, especially the bees.

According to the article the USDA believes that the bee population is affected by a host of things, such as lack of forage, disease and parasites.

Supposedly there is not enough scientific information to prove whether neonicotinoids are harmful and that studies will be done.

Some of the growers who supply product to HD are worried that customers are going to see those tags and turn away from buying the product.

I wonder how long before the other box stores start requiring the same tags in their products too.

So if you saw that warning tag, would you buy the plant or not?

Sometimes all it takes is one person to cause major changes. I wonder if in the long run with HD requiring these tags and if other box stores and garden centers also go along with the program, will all growers big and little eventually be required to have some sort of tags too?

What plants are feed the seeds absorb too. Does this mean some day all folks selling seed that came from a neonicotinoid plant be required.

If the this is the first sign of required tags, where will it go to next? Will every plant treated with anything be required to have tags? "


Flinter
Apr 9, 2015 1:03 AM CST
Name: Flinter
The Netherlands
RedLeopard wrote:
Hey, Flinter!

The Blue Daisy seed I got from you have sprouted and are doing well!

As Alana mentioned, the spots don't really show up until you have true leaves that are a little larger.

You also mentioned that one of the seeds produced two seedlings. Looks to me like at least a couple have done so. I'm glad you mentioned it, as in the photo I posted above, I said there were six seedlings, but actually it was from three seed.

I had pre-soaked and sowed four seed, three of which were heavy and sank immediately, the forth was a floater that was still floating the next day. As expected, only three seed sprouted, but all three were bi-embryonic. Thumbs up

So, only three seed and the pot is already looking over-full! I wasn't expecting the side branches, and had been considering, when I first installed them into the large patio pot, what I would put around them for filler. Guess I won't need to worry about that any more! Hilarious!




I am glad to hear the blue Daisy germinated well.

I think you are right about the spots and the leaves. I will wait and see. Yesterday i put some of the seedlings of the Cerinthe in my garden. We didnt have a real winter in The Netherlands. I hope we dont get any frost anymore before summer.

ImageRedLeopard
Apr 9, 2015 8:19 AM CST
Name: Ron
Naples, FL
Flinter, if the leaves don't develop the spots, be sure and save some seed for Star. Make her a real happy piggy in the next Piggy Swap!

Star, I'm not sure how well Cerinthe purpurascens will do with our heat and humidity. It has been many years ago since I grew the purple one, but they seemed to fade rather quickly once our summer really got going. I only planted a few seed of each at first, hoping they would live long enough to produce at least a few mature seed, but expecting I probably needed to treat them as cool season annuals and plant again this fall.

The purple sprouted quickly and grew fast. The yellow didn't sprout at all. I put the rest of the yellow seed in water to pick out a couple non-floaters to soak and plant, but since they all floated I let them all soak overnight. Still all floaters, but I planted them all hoping for at least one seedling. The purple had been so straightforward with three sinkers and one floater then three seed sprouted, that I don't think peroxide would have helped. If I had more of the yellow seed on hand, I would try it just in case.

Mindy03
Apr 9, 2015 11:27 AM CST
Name: Margaret
Delta KY
I'm A Charley's Girl For Sure
Is it a good idea to plant salvia with lavender?

I'm working on a lavender bed for the honey bees and want more than lavender in it.
Imagestarlight1153
Apr 9, 2015 3:49 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Mindy My stuff is in pots, but have the Salvias right next to the lavenders and haven't had any kind of problem at all. The hummers work the Salvia and the bees work both.

Red Everything I could find said to start the Yellow Gem seeds using the baggy method kept at 70F and germination will take 5 to 21 days.

Arlene Get them covers ready. We got some really severe storms and hail coming at us starting tomorrow afternoon. Uggggggggggggggggg gotta move plants again and try and cover what I can. Haven't even started yet and my back is already starting to ache. LOL
ImageArleneB
Apr 9, 2015 5:13 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! No more hail!!!!!!! Lettuce is just recovering. Broccoli and cauliflower are goners.

I planted beans today. Several varieties, Joseph's early shelling bush, cannolcina runner or something, goldcrop, Neckargold pole. I still have more to plant. I also planted corn. Three kinds of sweet corn. No wait, four kinds, Sugar pearl, Spring Surprise, F5 hybrid and another heirloom.

Then I planted some new gladiolus and that's all I got done. Took a long time to water everything and I'm tired.
poisondartfrog
Apr 9, 2015 5:22 PM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
RedLeopard, if those Yellow Gem seeds came from me they are pretty old. I meant to mark them as old but can't remember if I did or not. I still have a pinch of them left if I can find them. This weekend I will give them a go, just in case there is an outlier and see if anything comes up.
I've planted out my first main crop tomatoes and the Whippersnappers are loaded with green fruits in the greenhouse. Winter was brutal and lasted a long time, but it seems some plants are working overtime to make up for it. I won't have any apricots or peaches this year, the record late winter temperatures took care of that, but the pears and apples are blooming nicely so I expect to harvest those at least. More notes for the garden journal.
Arlene I almost bought Sugar Pearl corn but changed my mind. I will be interested in hearing how you rate it for flavor.

Imagechelle
Apr 9, 2015 5:30 PM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
The first of my 2015 gentiana transplants went into the garden yesterday, and they're covered with hail protection today. No telling what we'll get overnight tonight, but there is certainly the threat.
Last year's seedling transplants all survived and are looking pretty good, so I'm getting really psyched to see the first blooms on them!
ImageArleneB
Apr 9, 2015 5:34 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Alana, I have grown Sugar Pearl before and we LOVE it!!!!
Imagestarlight1153
Apr 9, 2015 6:37 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Poison I'm jealous! Green fruits all ready. Aggggggggg my mouth is watering liek crazy just thinking about a real, fresh, home grown tomato. Sticking tongue out

Chelle Glad you ready for the hail. I sure hope it misses all of us, but they say it is gonna happen.

Chelle... Did you give your Lavendula's Pink Eleegance a hair cut? Wonder if you did if they looking any better.

Arlene I know. I'll go early in the morning and tarp my spot at market and then I high-tailing it back here to move and cover more plants. Looks like there gonna be a whole lot of rain with this system and high winds too. When I saw the weather report and it the same on all the stations, I first thought of you and your poor gardens. I sure hope the rains don't flood out or beat deep into the ground your newly planted seed. Hopefully we only have a few more weeks of this crazy weather.







ImageArleneB
Apr 9, 2015 6:50 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
David and I have decided if we have another set back we'll just quit going to market. I just inventoried my tomato plants though and we have 168 and we'll probably only plant between 30-45 for ourselves so I'd better sell some plants!!!

I've not been able to get any more seeds started for quite awhile. I have a full shoebox of ones I want to still start. I'm hoping with getting squash, corn and beans planted early I will be able to plant a few more flowers. If not I'll have to hold some for next year or maybe I can start some this fall.
Imagechelle
Apr 9, 2015 7:49 PM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
starlight1153 wrote:
Chelle... Did you give your Lavendula's Pink Eleegance a hair cut? Wonder if you did if they looking any better.



Still waiting for signs of returning life on that one. I did a light trim on my other Lavenders though.
poisondartfrog
Apr 9, 2015 8:28 PM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
That's good to know Arlene, I might try that corn this year after all.

Star and Chelle, I don't think my "Pink Ellagance" (don't you hate the way they spelled that? Just wrong, lol.) Lavender survived and of all the things I lost this year, I think I will miss it least. Insipid is how I would describe it in my garden last year.



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