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Imageavmoran
Apr 20, 2010 12:45 PM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
This is probably the hardest part of hybridizing. Since I have little space to spare and I want the best of the seedlings to have room to grow I find I am being very hard on my seedlings. All greyed yellows no matter the form are gone as soon as they blooms. Here are some of my compost volunteers.

This first one is prety from a distance an SDB but it is dog eared, rangy, and only has two buds and this is its 4th year. All the yellows from this cross are already compost

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Imageavmoran
Apr 20, 2010 12:47 PM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
This is a sibling and was hoping for better but after 4 years this thing has never bloomed taller that 3" and with a large flower not a good thing thankfully it only has one bud so it was easy to toss

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Imageavmoran
Apr 20, 2010 12:48 PM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
this one was a little harder to toss, still a sibling to the 1st two but this one had something special
turquois

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Imageavmoran
Apr 20, 2010 12:49 PM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
Here is a close up of that fall

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Imageavmoran
Apr 20, 2010 12:51 PM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
Only kept 2 of 17 seedlings from the above cross and they will get another year one is another year

This cross is from a spectacular MTB and all the seedlings are SDBs this though I am not discouting short this year there is nothing special about this one and there are at least 5 from the cross that really look nice

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Imageavmoran
Apr 20, 2010 12:52 PM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
This on a sibling of above is just too ugly to stay

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Imageavmoran
Apr 20, 2010 12:54 PM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
This one will get another year only because it is blooming above the leaves and is an MDB in height and flower size but it may end up compost anyway

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Imageavmoran
Apr 20, 2010 12:55 PM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
Another just ugly.

This is from a self cross and you will get very good and very bad this is one of two that have bloomed so far that are very bad

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Imageavmoran
Apr 20, 2010 12:56 PM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
this is the other

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Imageavmoran
Apr 20, 2010 12:59 PM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
This one never saw a second day let alone another season

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Imageavmoran
Apr 20, 2010 12:59 PM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
Sibling got day two before tossed

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Imageavmoran
Apr 20, 2010 1:01 PM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
This is first flower open for this Baby Blessed X Firestorm cross
it got a reprieve because yellow is not all grey

Since I am not a yellow person this would have to go out and get evaluated if it makes it that far.
What it does have going for it is that it is blooming in the Nursery bed (lots of shade) and as you can see terminal is double socketed and it has a spur on this maiden bloom.

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Imageirisarian
Apr 20, 2010 2:08 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
irises
3 bud with 2 in the terminal are good. I think that SDBs can have too many buds a they can crowd each other out. also later buds often bloom below the foliage. First weeding since eye operation today & one bright yellow MDB size from SDB breeding is the only one left of its cross as the others were bums. It was annoying to find that something (I think a slug) had been at the bud before it was even out of the foliage. a couple more buds to evaluate if they turn into flowers.
Imageavmoran
Apr 20, 2010 2:14 PM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
It is good but it is YELLOW
LOL
A

Glad to hear you are out in the garden
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A
Imageirisloverdee
Apr 20, 2010 4:51 PM CST
Name: Dee Stewart
Willamette Valley OR
Snowpeak Iris
Almost all of my yellows, and yellow and red, and or purples are composted as soon as they bloom as there are so many of them on the market in my opinion so unless they are extra special the are no more.

D
Denise Stewart
541-259-2343
Snowpeak http://snowpeakiris.com

Imageavmoran
Apr 20, 2010 6:15 PM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
Go to 2010 Seedlings
ImagePollyK
Apr 20, 2010 8:21 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

I find it very informative to hear the reason you are keeping or not keeping a seedling.

Do you ever find it's just 'beauty's in the eye of the beholder' why you keep or discard, or is it all based on true evaluation?
Imageirisloverdee
Apr 20, 2010 9:11 PM CST
Name: Dee Stewart
Willamette Valley OR
Snowpeak Iris
The first thing I see is the colors is it eye appealing to me? What is the form, bud count, branching, on medians more than TB how does it look 15' away.

Then is it a color that I do not like as much as other colors if so I must study if even closer. In my case selfs, in yellows, purples and whites.

D
Denise Stewart
541-259-2343
Snowpeak http://snowpeakiris.com

Imageirisarian
Apr 20, 2010 9:49 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
irises
I not only observe the cross, but you have to think about their ancestry. However there would be a very good reason for keeping a 'not too good'.
Imageavmoran
Apr 21, 2010 6:01 AM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
I am keeping what we affectionately refer to as the DOG. I crossed her and she proved to be pollen and pod fertile. For Arilbreds it is difficult to evaluate their worth unless you see offspring. One of the number one reasons in hybridizing arilbred is to increase hte range they can be grown and grown well. Her sibling Lakeside Elf is growing well from Maryland to California and from Main to New Mexico. Having easy fertility in 1/2 breds is a great advantage and it can be used to produce not only OGB- but OGB and OGB+ as well. Although this flower is terrible she had 4-5 buds, is taller than either of her siblings, a great stalk and has matured in an area that I grow tall bearded with no additonal care making it a great garden plant as well. If she passes on those traits in her offspring then she has earned her space in my garden.
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