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bonjon
Mar 2, 2010 6:37 AM CST
Name: Bonita (Bonnie) Masteller
Raleigh NC
well, that tells me it's fertile! Yippee! It's one of those irises, too, that is much prettier than it's photos. I'd seen photos, and decided against it for years. Then bought so many, decided "what the heck, I just want it for it's name." It's made a great clump in only 2.5 years. So there will be a lot of stalks to "playbee" on.

Another that did well here, so well I dug and traded some and then forgot what I did with the rest of the clump!! - was Protocol. Bright, pretty little sucker, and growing like a WEED. Hilarious!
bonjon
Mar 2, 2010 6:47 AM CST
Name: Bonita (Bonnie) Masteller
Raleigh NC
Yesterday we all went over to Epperson's garden and weeded. Got less than the front done. I'm going to need more days there. The foliage is in very bad shape.
Imageirisarian
Mar 2, 2010 9:32 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
irises
Protocol is an IB a class with hybrid vigor which usually grow well, unless they don't. Rolling on the floor laughing Miss Nellis in a 48c BB. Can be sort of a dirty color, but when I used it, got a lot of white with a turquoise wash which is the color of one of its ancestors (I think Child Star). Modern irises are such a mixture of color genes that I do a lot of pedigree studying to look up where THAT came from when I see seedlings.

2009 Superstition catalog had Eleanor Roosevelt. so I assume they still have it.
Imagesharondippity
May 5, 2010 3:26 PM CST
Name: Jackie Anderson
Thackerville, OK
Bonjon,

Jackie Sharon from Thackerville, OK..I grow anything I can stick in the ground, mostly bearded iris and water garden plants.

I have lots of ER I can share, when you are ready

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ImageTroubleX2
Aug 31, 2010 10:25 PM CST
Name: TroubleX2
Montgomery, Texas
Iris are getting to me! Daylilies h
I sure am glad to find this cubit. I just started with Iris this year, and loving all the beauties ya'll post. Can't wait to get some I've seen here.
Working on a TEXAS size Bloom
April (Better known as TroubleX2)
ImageCalif_Sue
Sep 1, 2010 12:31 AM CST
Name: Sue
Sebastopol, CA.
Zone 9a
Ohhh April, you're new too?! It's scary how fast I fell into these, all it took was a few I traded for with some extra daylilies I had last year and then a visit to Schreiners Iris Gardens in Oregon in May and I was sucked right in! Then this cubit and all the lovely pictures doesn't help. Rolling my eyes.
Imageirisloverdee
Sep 1, 2010 7:03 AM CST
Name: Dee Stewart
Willamette Valley OR
Snowpeak Iris
Hey CA Sue if you come up this way into OR again remember I am before any of the big boys east of Albany...then up to Keith Keppel and on to Mid America then over to Schreiners and then Cooleys in Silverton

D
Denise Stewart
541-259-2343
Snowpeak http://snowpeakiris.com

ImagePollyK
Sep 1, 2010 8:03 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

April, I love how you put irises are getting to me under your name. How funny!

And I'm getting into daylilies. I guess while I was playing with irises, daylilies improved greatly. I love those big eyes, the chicken fat, the teeth........
ImageCalif_Sue
Sep 1, 2010 10:41 AM CST
Name: Sue
Sebastopol, CA.
Zone 9a
Dee, I would love to come and visit, maybe next bloom season, if I am not too knee deep in remodeling. Although, that might be a nice break from it all.

Polly, make sure you order what's appropriate for your area, evergreens may not be something you want to try as a newbie to daylilies. Easier to stick with the dormants, find growers in the colder zones that grow semi-evergreens too, they give you good recommendations.
ImagePollyK
Sep 1, 2010 11:30 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Thanks Sue. I have a lot of daylilies, but they are the older ones. And I want the newer fancy ones. So, at least I have experience. I've owned a nursery for more than 20 years, and sold and overwintered many pots of daylilies. I will stay away from dormants. I appreciate the advice. Any advice, any time.

I've been looking at the ones on mamajacks co-ops from Bently Gardens. OMG they are lovely.
ImageCalif_Sue
Sep 1, 2010 11:31 AM CST
Name: Sue
Sebastopol, CA.
Zone 9a
Ok, so just a newbie to these new fancy ones LOL!
ImagePollyK
Sep 1, 2010 4:09 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Exactly! So far I bit the bullet for Southern Dazzle. It's an SEV, but I'm gambling. 45.00 and free shipping.

http://www.distinctly.on.ca/can_am/Live_Auction_2009/harry.h...

Now maybe you can tell me why daylilies intros are so expensive, and why the price does not seem to come down. Where you would pay 45 for an iris, you can 250 for a daylily intro.
ImageCalif_Sue
Sep 1, 2010 4:36 PM CST
Name: Sue
Sebastopol, CA.
Zone 9a
Purdy one! A bigger picture from Nicole Harry's site here, you can even enlarge the image once you open it.
http://nicolesdaylilies.com/index.php?option=com_content&vie...

As far as high prices, it's all supply and demand. Quoting from this site here: http://www.paradisegarden.com/shop/faq_daylilies.php#Q19

Why are some daylilies so expensive? I've seen some very lovely ones that are only $5, and some other equally lovely ones that are $150!

Supply and demand rule in the sale of daylilies. When a daylily is very new to the market, its supply will be very small, and the demand (if the daylily's a good one) can be quite high. These daylilies can sell for up to $300, and occasionally even more. Most people who purchase the high end daylilies are hybridizers who want to introduce the new genetics into their lines. As the daylily grows and increases, and they tend to do that pretty rapidly, the market supply will increase. If demand also increases, the price will remain up there for a while. Eventually though, the supply will begin to outstrip the demand, and the price will drop. If you wait long enough, every daylily will become a $5 plant. Now the corollary to this is that the value of a daylily is not truly linked to its cost. Some of the finest daylilies I grow sell for $10-15. And sad to say, some of the poorest performers are the $150 ones. This is one of the reasons I recommend that you visit some of the AHS Display gardens to view different cultivars growing in a similar climate to your own. Not only will you be able to see the pretty flowers up close and personal, but you will also get a good idea of how well they perform in your area.


A few years back, I had a new intro that was in real high demand, it had the latest break through look (sculpting) plus got a big endorsement from a top well respected hybridizer so everyone was clamoring to work with it.. I used it's pollen on everything that bloomed that summer and sold over $1400 in JUST SEEDS! The easiest thing to do, no digging, cleaning, etc., just careful record keeping, collect & refrigerate the seeds, post a few auctions and pop them in a bubble envelope when they sold. So when people mention that they never would spend that much on a newer daylily, I just tell them that I recouped my initial investment in a matter of just a 2-3 seed auctions in one week. It was well worth the investment plus I still have the daylily and then can still sell fans of it if I wished.
ImagePollyK
Sep 1, 2010 4:49 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Thanks Sue!

Now to ask even further, what makes it so different from an iris intro? Really you can say the same for iris intros. But why is a new iris intro only 50 or less, and the daylily ones up to 300? Do you think daylilies are that much more popular than irises? That's probably it, as there is a lot of breeding in daylilies, much more so than in irises.

So my other two I ordered are Carolyn Mann and Lake Effect. From another vendor I have coming Darla Anita, (always loved that one), Wild Horses and Barn Owl. That should get me going on the look I want, and actually I will be glad to get rid of some of the older washed out looking ones I have.
ImageCalif_Sue
Sep 1, 2010 5:03 PM CST
Name: Sue
Sebastopol, CA.
Zone 9a
No idea about the difference between the two. I bet Bill Maryott would have an answer, since he has been heavily involved in both..
Here's an article about him written back in 2007 about his iris and daylily hybridizing, scroll about half way down.
http://www.ahsregion7.org/newsletters/newsletterfallwinter07...

(hey, I just noticed I was still treasurer back then)
ImagePollyK
Sep 1, 2010 5:14 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Cool, I guess you really know your daylilies, then. You have many talents, Sue.

Maybe I could ask on the daylily cubit, it might be worth some talk. And I could write to Mr. Maryott.
Imageirisarian
Sep 1, 2010 5:38 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
irises
Got a kick out his DL names==he introduced an iris called 'Octoberfest'.
ImageCalif_Sue
Sep 1, 2010 6:30 PM CST
Name: Sue
Sebastopol, CA.
Zone 9a
LOL, no Polly, I just fake my way through! Hilarious!

I have Bill's 'That's All Folks' on my wish list as well as a few others like Candy Cane Cutie, Tiger Shark, Juan Valdez, Midnight Cowboy, & Exclusive Design.
ImageTroubleX2
Sep 1, 2010 7:30 PM CST
Name: TroubleX2
Montgomery, Texas
Iris are getting to me! Daylilies h
Calif_Sue,
Ran across this just now, Octobertfest $5.00 here.
http://www.argyleacres.com/limitedlist3.htm
Working on a TEXAS size Bloom
April (Better known as TroubleX2)
ImageCalif_Sue
Sep 1, 2010 8:41 PM CST
Name: Sue
Sebastopol, CA.
Zone 9a
Thanks April, they are already closed for the season and I can't order anymore, I am moving next week.
Look out next year though!

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