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ImagePollyK
Feb 18, 2011 6:53 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Charleen and Becky have kindly agreed to trial some beardless irises for me. To see how far south we can go with the Japanese.

So, I'd like to use this thread to keep track of how they do.

Thanks Charleen and Becky!!!!
Imagebeckygardener
Feb 18, 2011 7:26 PM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Polly - Do you want photos of the new growth peeking through the muck in the pots of the Japanese Irises you sent me? If so, I'll try to get some photos when I fertilize everything in the backyard tomorrow morning. Afterwards I'll be gone for most of the day, so will post photos in the evening. I only had time to fertilize some of my potted plants in the front garden after work today. (sigh) Never enough hours in the day...
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ImagePollyK
Feb 18, 2011 7:32 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Thanks Becky. Yes, please. That will help me keep dates straight, so I know approx when things started growing.
Imagebeckygardener
Feb 18, 2011 8:05 PM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Will do! Thumbs up

I have a request ... if you can ... do you have bloom photos of the ones you sent me. You sent me Maroon Giant, Anytus, and Greywood Etcha Sketch. (I think I spelled those right?) I'd love to see what they look like! Drooling
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ImagePollyK
Feb 18, 2011 8:25 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Anytus

Thumb of 2011-02-19/PollyK/8ba7d0


Greywoods Etcha Sketch

http://cubits.org/irisforum/db/ouririsdatabase/image/4945/

Maroon Giant

http://www.whiteflowerfarm.com/32469-product.html




Imagebeckygardener
Feb 18, 2011 8:32 PM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Thanks, Polly! Those are gorgeous! WOW!!!! I have my fingers crossed that maybe one or more of them will bloom for me this year! Long shot probably, but a girl can dream, right? Whistling
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ImagePollyK
Feb 18, 2011 8:35 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

I tried to pick them to be a pleasing combo, but it's hard to tell in different areas if they will bloom together for sure. Anytus is really tall, so if you get a flower shoot, you might want to stake it.
Imagebeckygardener
Feb 18, 2011 8:54 PM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Thanks, Polly! You were very generous sending such beauties! I hope I do them justice in their new home here in the heat of Florida. Big Grin
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ImagePollyK
Feb 18, 2011 8:55 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

You're welcome Becky. You're very generous to trial them for me.
Imagebeckygardener
Feb 18, 2011 9:05 PM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Anytime!!!! Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
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Imagebeckygardener
Feb 19, 2011 9:17 PM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Polly - The sprouts in the pots are really small, so I hope you can see them in each pot.

Maroon Giant:
Thumb of 2011-02-20/beckygardener/41a5d6

Close-up of the sprouts. The leaves are actually green not white:

Thumb of 2011-02-20/beckygardener/e3fa8f

This one is Anytus:
Thumb of 2011-02-20/beckygardener/ec608a

Close-up of Anytus:
Thumb of 2011-02-20/beckygardener/6326fa

Greywood Etcha Sketch:

Thumb of 2011-02-20/beckygardener/4f8abc
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ImagePollyK
Feb 19, 2011 9:26 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Becky! Those are some good looking sprouts! Greywoods Etcha Sketch certainly looks large enough to flower this year.

What exactly do you have them planted in? Type of soil, or whatever?
Imagebeckygardener
Feb 20, 2011 5:32 AM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Polly - Oh good! Glad to know they look okay!

I just mixed some bagged top soil with some potting mix and a handful of Black Kow compost. Fertilizing them now is the first time they've been fertilized since I got them from you. I used the MiracleGro Bloom Booster that you mix with water. That's what I used to get my Louisiana irises to bloom last year and they bloomed profusely for me.

Do irises bloom once each year or can they bloom repeatedly?

Also, do they like to be submerged in "water" during winter? Seems I was googling about irises and read they like moist but not wet soil during the cold of winter. Or maybe I'm getting them mixed up with some other iris...
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ImagePollyK
Feb 20, 2011 8:25 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

That should be a good combo for the growing mix. They love manure.

These irises are once bloomers. They should bloom for a few weeks. There are some repeat bloomers on the Japanese, and I've had repeat bloom on Anytus. But usually just once a year.

What you read was right about most areas. They don't like having water sitting over the crowns that freezes for long periods. In your area they should be OK wet over winter. Or moist would be OK, too.

You've done everything just right. So, if there's a chance they will do OK in your area, they will with what you've done.
Imagebeckygardener
Feb 20, 2011 8:41 AM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Thanks, Polly! I've tried to take to heart your wonderful growing instructions! :-) Thank you for sharing those 3 Japanese cultivars with me! Big Grin
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ImagePollyK
Feb 20, 2011 8:45 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

You're welcome. There doesn't seem to be any trials for southern hardiness of Japanese irises anywhere, ever. I know two people trialling them is not a true trial, but it's a start. I also have two people in Alaska trialling them. One in zone 1, for heavens sakes, LOL. If they survive there i will be truly shocked.

I have been asked to let the editor of the Japanese Iris society newsletter know how they do, and I'm so glad you and Charleen are taking such excellent care of them.
Imagebeckygardener
Feb 20, 2011 9:04 AM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Zone 1???? LOL! Geez ... if they survive there ... then they are definitely cold hardy! LOL!

I'm curious to see how the Japanese irises handle the heat here in summer. Though many parts of Japan have similar climate as I do. (I know because I have a friend there who I correspond with.)

That's truly awesome that you are trying to do trial grow-outs in different zones to see how hardy they really are. Should be most interesting, indeed! I hope you will share your results with everyone here! Thumbs up
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ImagePollyK
Feb 20, 2011 9:15 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

I will. I'm chronicling it here.

And supposedly they grow wild all over Japan, not just in the colder regions.
Imagebeckygardener
Feb 20, 2011 9:30 AM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Well, that would make me think that they will grow in the southern states of the USA. There are a lot of bodies of water here, but I don't see a lot of Irises growing in them. I wonder why?
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ImagePollyK
Feb 20, 2011 9:45 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

These irises are all native to Florida, and grow in wetlands, so I'm surprised you're not seeing more of them.

I. brevicaulis, I. hexagona, I. tridentata, I. virginica. I verna is native also, but to dry forests. Also naturalized in Florida is I. psuedacorus, and I. fulva, which is a Louisiana. And we know how well you grow Louisianas.

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