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Imagebeckygardener
Feb 20, 2011 10:54 AM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Interesting info! That's what I thought, too, but I just rarely see any growing here in a natural wetland. Maybe so much progress and development have destroyed those natural wetlands? Possibly. Or either I don't live in the right area in Florida to see such irises. But I have the few in my backyard that I love! :-) It's all good! Thumbs up
Another Day in Paradise!
ImageRidesredmule
Mar 22, 2011 5:28 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida
Walk in Peace.
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This is bog about a week ago, no soil in here, I put peat in here.

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These are directly into the Georgia soil.
ImagePollyK
Mar 23, 2011 8:25 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Charleen, the ones in the bog are doing excellent! If it's just peat moss in there, can you throw some fertilizer at them? I always thought they would do well there in the ground, but I'm really pleased to see how well they are doing in the bog.

I have another trial victim, uh, person willing to trial JIs in the south. Ron from Miss told me he would be willing to trial a couple for me (thanks Ron!). In addition Trish and Dave will be trialling a few down in Texas, so this might really turn into a scientific experiment.

I had previously searched all over for where the JIs were trialled, and could not find anything. I asked on the JI robin, and people posted where they were growing them, but there were no surprises, really.

Common belief only has them growing in a very limited area. Dee and I are pretty sure they will grow outside that area, in fact DG only had them listed as hardy to z 6. I lobbied to get that changed to z4, but they would only agree to z5, as they wanted to be conservative? But, oh well, 5 was more accurate than 6. And I really think there are not a lot being grown in the south, as people have been led to believe they won't grow there.
ImageMShadow
Mar 23, 2011 9:45 AM CST
Name: Marilyn Campbell
Houghton Lake, MI
I grow JIs, and all of the nurseries near me said this is zone 4. Of course don't know if that has changed since 1998. Hilarious!
ImagePollyK
Mar 23, 2011 9:52 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

I have seen info where they only grow in the NE. I've seen info where they only grow in Z6. I honestly believe they will grow pretty much throughout the US if given the right conditions. I wouldn't want to try them in the desert. I have my doubts about Florida or Southern California. I have some now in z1, Alaska being trialled, and I have my doubts they will even make it though the winter there, poor things.

Oh, plus Sue is going to try a couple for me in California.

Thanks, Marilyn. You should have enough snow cover to protect them there, don't you?
ImageRidesredmule
Mar 23, 2011 10:03 AM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida
Walk in Peace.
Why wouldn't they grow in the desert in a bog in the ground??? Maybe someone will try it for you.
I use liquid MG?? Will it work. I have some made up for my brugs, I can get a cupful and pour in there if it doesn't hurt them. I also have Donkey poo. Will that work???
ImageRidesredmule
Mar 23, 2011 11:37 AM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida
Walk in Peace.
Update!!! Bog Iris. Thumb of 2011-03-23/Ridesredmule/ac26b1
Imagegemini_sage
Mar 23, 2011 1:42 PM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY
I'm curious if the snow cover in zone 1 will provide them enough protection, this will be very interesting to see!
ImagePollyK
Mar 23, 2011 2:56 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

I'm surprised it provides anything with enough coverage, Neal. It sure wouldn't me.

Charleen, liquid MG will work. I wouldn't use the poo unless it was composted first, that might burn. I'd feed it the liquid MG about every two weeks. Nice green leaves on the iris. It's doing really well. Keep it really wet, although I guess that's the definition of a bog, LOL.

I don't know, even in a bog they have to be kept wet. I don't know if that's feasible in the desert.
ImageRidesredmule
Mar 23, 2011 2:58 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida
Walk in Peace.
I'll keep an eye on it. don't want them to burn up. I'll give it a dry. Heck, I'm scared of fertilizers, I sure don't want it killed after making it through the winter. This was a rough one too.
ImagePollyK
Mar 23, 2011 3:06 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Now Charleen....it's snowing here as we speak.

Miracle Gro isn't going to hurt anything. You could use it at a weaker rate if you're nervous.
ImageMShadow
Mar 23, 2011 4:01 PM CST
Name: Marilyn Campbell
Houghton Lake, MI
It has been snowing here since around 9 p.m. last night. About 12 inches now and its still coming down. Grumbling
ImagePollyK
Mar 23, 2011 5:05 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Just for my own record keeping here, Betja has also agreed to trial some JIs.


Eew, Marilyn!
Imagebeckygardener
Mar 23, 2011 5:27 PM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Just thought I'd post some photos of the 3 you sent me, Polly. They survived the transplant and winter here.

Forgive me if I don't put their ID names on each photo. The name tags are buried down in the muck and I didn't have my gloves on to fish them out! Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

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Another Day in Paradise!
ImagePollyK
Mar 23, 2011 5:56 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Great Becky! They look really good, too. Thanks for posting. You guys are sure taking very good care of them.
Imagebeckygardener
Mar 23, 2011 6:12 PM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Big Grin Thumbs up
Another Day in Paradise!
ImageRidesredmule
Mar 23, 2011 6:23 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida
Walk in Peace.
Looking great, Becky.
lovelyiris
Mar 24, 2011 4:11 PM CST
Name: Marian Ritchie
Winnsboro, Texas
Polly, me too, me too. I want to be a TEST GARDEN. I'm pretty sure I can keep them alive and growing well in one of my ponds. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what all kinds of irises I have. I know I have some of your sibs. I also have about 10 different Louisana Irises that I got from different people. Of course I didn't bother with keeping the names of the La irises as I wasn't planning on trading any of them.

We had a man from Louisana give a program on La. irises this past Monday night . It was our monthly meeting for the Piney Woods Iris and Daylily Society of Mt. Pleasant. It was really very interesting and I'm going to try my hand at playing mother nature with them this summer. LOL I did receive 2 different named La Iris plants from the hybridizer.

As all of you know I need more plants like I need another hole in my head. Needing, wanting, and getting are 3 different things though. BFG.

I do have irises blooming and I'll start another thread to write and post pictures of them here.
I should have peak bloom within a couple of weeks.
Marian
ImageRidesredmule
Apr 16, 2011 8:41 AM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida
Walk in Peace.
Thumb of 2011-04-16/Ridesredmule/4e37b4 Here is bog with my chicken, Abigail.
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These are the ones in the ground. Look at the difference. Taken same day and Yes, I've started giving them sips of Miracle grow made light, I am so afraid of burning them.....
ImagePollyK
Apr 16, 2011 1:03 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Charleen, wow! Those look fantastic!

Really, do not worry about the Miracle Gro. In the one in the ground. The bog might slow up the rate the fertilizer leaves, so I would be more careful there. I give mine Miracle Gro at the recommended strength every two weeks.

I am crossing my fingers you will get bloom, but from the looks of them, I think you will. Hurray!

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