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ImageRidesredmule
Apr 16, 2011 1:07 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida
Walk in Peace.
i hope so. the ones in the bog don't get much fertizer, don't want it to just grow leaves and no blooms.
Thank you. I couldn't test them without you..... Group hug Group hug
Imagebeckygardener
Apr 16, 2011 9:31 PM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Charleen - Your irises look great!!! Do you have only one "clump" growing in each photo or did you plant several together?

After looking at yours, I hope mine aren't getting too much water. Mine is in pots that are standing in a 1-3" of water or in a boggy looking soil.
Another Day in Paradise!
ImageRidesredmule
Apr 17, 2011 7:04 AM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida
Walk in Peace.
Nature waters them, the bog is nothing but peat moss. the others are just sitting in the ground. There are several plants in there.
Put some peat in there to soak up the water Becky, see if that helps.
The chickens get a sip of water out of there once in a while.
Imagebeckygardener
Apr 17, 2011 7:28 AM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Charleen - Whew! I thought that yours had spread that much from one rooted plant! LOL! I was ready to throw in the towel! LOL!

Mine are in what I call water containers. The growth on mine really started to kick in recently after I shoved a large pond tab (used for water plants like water lilies and marginals) down into each pot near the irises. I think giving mine enough fertilizer is my issue, not so much the standing water or the mushy bog. Here are the 3 that Polly sent me. Each has their own pot.

This is Greywood Etcha Sketch:

Thumb of 2011-04-17/beckygardener/594363

Can't see the names on the other two, but I believe this one is Anytus:

Thumb of 2011-04-17/beckygardener/09e753

And the last one should be Maroon Giant. I thought I had lost this one because it lost all it's foliage over the winter whereas the other two still had green blades on them:

Thumb of 2011-04-17/beckygardener/5c18ac
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Imageirisloverdee
Apr 17, 2011 7:32 AM CST
Name: Dee Stewart
Willamette Valley OR
Snowpeak Iris
Becky and Charlene both of yours are looking happy, healthy and very much well cared for. Keep up the excellent work.

D
Denise Stewart
541-259-2343
Snowpeak http://snowpeakiris.com

Imageboojum
Apr 17, 2011 7:49 AM CST
Name: Kathy
Western MA zone 4-5a
I agree They look a lot better cared for than my hundreds of beardless here!
ImagePollyK
Apr 17, 2011 7:55 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

They look wonderful!!!! Both of you.

Now if they will just bloom, that's the problem, to see if they have enough chilling hours in Florida. Charleen's have a better chance to bloom, but I wanted to see if they would overwinter in a bog there.

You ladies are doing so excellent with these. I'm so happy I sent them to you to trial.
Imagebeckygardener
Apr 17, 2011 7:59 AM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Thanks, Dee, Kathy, and Polly!! Smiling

Polly - How long of cold temps do they typically need to bloom? We've had some rather cold winters here, but they were short freezing spells. So if I later feed them Bloom Booster, it might not work to get blooms? What time of year do they typically bloom?
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ImagePollyK
Apr 17, 2011 8:06 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

I would expect they will be blooming for you toward late May.

I don't think that question has ever been answered, Becky. At least I can't find the answer. Looking on the internet, and back in my copies of The Review (from the JI society) I cannot find any info on how much cooling they need. I decided to experiment on my own, and I have a couple more testers in warm areas for next year.Texas and Mississippi. So, it's not large enough to be a formal test yet, but the results will be reported to the JI society.

If they have not gotten the adequate chilling, no, Bloom Booster won't work. If they have it will help them have larger and lovelier blooms.

Imagebeckygardener
Apr 17, 2011 8:16 AM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Polly - When I was looking up each name on DG to see what the blooms look like, I found this entry in PlantFiles for Maroon Giant. Read the comment at the bottom of this file: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/32988/ This person was in Arizona! 105 degree heat and it bloomed for her! LOL! I am amazed! Thumbs up

Well, I'm probably in zone 9b/10a. I have the plants in full sun part of the day and then part shade the rest. It gets really hot here by mid-afternoon even now. I have to add water to the pots every 2 days when I water all my other plants. It's only April, but the temps have been rather warm for this early. I think we are going to have a scorching summer here. Ugh ...

Happy to be a test study to see if they will bloom here in south-central Florida. I was told by someone in Japan that my temps here in Florida are very similar to theirs in Japan. So it had me wondering about the heat factor in Japan... It will be very interesting to see what your test results are! Do share that information with us. I'd love to know myself. Thumbs up
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ImagePollyK
Apr 17, 2011 8:22 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Another factor is that the iris had chilling at my house before it was sent to you. Since irises set their flower buds the late summer/ early fall prior to blooming, it may already have in it the disposition to bloom. So, it may bloom this year and not the next.
Imagebeckygardener
Apr 17, 2011 8:26 AM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
That's very interesting. So they really do need chilling to get blooms? Do yours die to the ground in winter? Or do you also have some green blades still showing during the cold months? Though in your location ... I am sure you get snow, right? So they probably die to the ground and come back from the rhizomes/tubers?

I often heard that Poppies (seeds) need chilling, too. But seems that information is not correct afterall.
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Imageboojum
Apr 17, 2011 8:42 AM CST
Name: Kathy
Western MA zone 4-5a
We cut them down here to the ground every late fall. They are hopefully covered with a nice blanket of snow all winter. They need it to insulate for the -20 windchill we get every 3 years or so-not good for z5 plants here if there's no snowfall. Remember some ensatas and siberians (as the name states) are from very cold terrains. It will be exciting to see if they can tolerate and bloom where you are.
Imageirisloverdee
Apr 17, 2011 8:57 AM CST
Name: Dee Stewart
Willamette Valley OR
Snowpeak Iris
I lived near An Arboredium in So Ca and their Japanese Iris and Siberian Iris were planted near the water but not in it.

Now I wanted some of course and they suggested when ever in the garden to throw ice cubes on it...and I did get some bloom just not what I wanted..

D

I cut them down almost to the ground and cover with 3-4" of steer manure that I get at Wilco for 1.00 for 5 cubic yards.'
Denise Stewart
541-259-2343
Snowpeak http://snowpeakiris.com

Imagebeckygardener
Apr 17, 2011 9:05 AM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Kathy - I always thought the blades needed to remain to give the plants nutrients and energy to grow the following season. Didn't know you should cut them back. Another interesting fact I didn't know about! :-)

Dee - That's a funny idea to throw ice cubes in the pots in Winter to get them to chill for Spring/Summer blooms. Manure sounds like a good covering for them. Are irises heavy feeders?
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Imageboojum
Apr 17, 2011 9:46 AM CST
Name: Kathy
Western MA zone 4-5a
Beardless are!
ImagePollyK
Apr 17, 2011 10:18 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Ditto what Boojum said for my conditions here.

We leave the leaves up until late fall, then they die down to the ground. By that time they have enough food to bloom.

And Becky, yes, we get close to 300 inches of snow a year.
Imagebeckygardener
Apr 17, 2011 10:30 AM CST
Name: Becky
Florida Zone 9b/10a
Wow! 300 inches of snow!!! Nope, can't compete with that kind of cold temps for that long. It's always amazing to me to see what survives such bitter cold winters up north. I have no clue about winter and plants! I'm a tropical gardener and haven't seen snow since I was a little girl.

Polly - I sure hope mine bloom this year and continue to bloom from here on out over the years. I didn't know that the plants set their flowers in the Fall months. More interesting information! Thanks for the education everyone! Hurray!
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ImageRidesredmule
Apr 17, 2011 2:36 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida
Walk in Peace.
I didn't cut anything back I put put mine in a container and hoped for the best. They sort of getting attention cause they are on trial, I guess.
ImagePollyK
May 4, 2011 8:18 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Moving this over here to, just to keep my tests together. From Marian in Texas:



Here's a Jap. Iris blooming at my house today. I got this from Polly last year. Can any of you guess it's name. No, not you POLLY. LOLThumb of 2011-05-05/lovelyiris/f19077
Thumb of 2011-05-05/lovelyiris/ec7d2e

I'll tell you the name in a day or so. Let's see if anyone can come up with it.

Marian

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