Photos forum: Question about photographing purples

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ImageMaryNZ
Jan 9, 2012 1:38 PM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

Forgive me if this has already been covered elsewhere in the Iris cubit. I haven't spotted it. I am new here.

I find purple to be the hardest colour to photograph accurately. Purples often show as blue or magenta. However, many of you seem to be able to take a good purple iris photo. Is it about the camera, the ambient light when the photo is taken, or do you use graphics software to correct the colour later? Any hints appreciated, even if they only work some of the time.
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Misawa77
Jan 9, 2012 4:24 PM CST
Name: Greg Hodgkinson
Hanover PA
Mary

Hello and welcome. Love the fact that "our" forum is world wide.

I find that I only seem to have "issues" when photographing purples on cloudy days. This is when they tend to move to blue for me. The bright sun tends to make them go magenta only when I have a bad angle or when the sun is low on the horizon. Even then, the purples kinda look somewhat magenta at that time so I think that is ok. I have a very basic camera and do not use fancy filters or computer software to "enhance" my pictures. (I use a Kodak EasyShare Z710).

So I try very hard to avoid very cloudy days. Hope this helps!
ImagePollyK
Jan 9, 2012 7:27 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

I was having a big problem with blues and purples. And I have an on line nursery, so I had to get it right. Unfortunately the solution I came up with was a new camera, Canon Powershot S90 IS. I asked for advice on a good camera for distinguishing those colors. As far as I'm concerned it's fabulous.

A lot of the people on here have SLR cameras, but I didn't think I was up for the learning curve, so pictures you'll see from Boojum and Betja and CalifSue are taken with the SLRs.

I always phtograph at dawn or dusk.

Graphic software is good, however, you're going to have to isolate the iris, otherwise your leaves will look darker, and it will show it's been photoshopped.

And, to top things off, computer monitors are way different in their color settings. Geeash.

I know we had some threads on here on the subject. I'll go search.


ImagePollyK
Jan 9, 2012 7:39 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

These might be of interest

http://cubits.org/irisforum/thread/view/48026/

http://cubits.org/irisforum/thread/view/48119/
ImageMaryNZ
Jan 9, 2012 9:16 PM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

Many thanks, Polly, I will read with interest.
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ImagePollyK
Jan 9, 2012 9:17 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Much welcomed.
ImageMaryNZ
Jan 10, 2012 12:04 AM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

Both great threads, viewed every link and read every word :)
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Imagenaomimade
Jan 10, 2012 12:53 AM CST
Name: Naomi DiVincenzo
Colorado Springs
zone 5b
.... and then there is the thing where different computer monitors translate the colors a bit differently too..... not to throw a wrench in the works or anything.... Whistling
Guess I'd better read up on those links as well tho...Thanks Polly! &:-)
ImageMShadow
Jan 10, 2012 9:24 AM CST
Name: Marilyn Campbell
Houghton Lake, MI
I agree with Polly about the camera. Canon seems to do a good job, and with Siberians you always have a lot of purples and blues.
Imageavmoran
Jan 10, 2012 9:55 AM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
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Ok these were taken this past year they are of the Siberian "Ever Again" one is early morning and the second is mid-day.
This was taken with a Cannon 40D which is very good at capturing color


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This is Daughter of Stars. The top picture best matches the color taken evening first day flower opened Tthe second was taken on a flower in the evening on the 3rd day.

This is my seedling "Voldy's Mink" The one on the Left is from last year the one on the right is typical of this flower with greyed violet instead of pink. Both were taken in the evening in full sun. The one on the right was taken with white balance off and I did not realize it until all the colors were off on the pictures I took that week.

There are a lot of reasons why purples and blues do not take correct pictures but I have found canon cameras do the best to maintain color. but digital nor film can capture all the colors that we can see with our eyes.

:)
Anita
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ImagePollyK
Jan 10, 2012 10:16 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Great pics, Anita.

Just to show how my camera takes blues and purples, these seem very true to color to me. All were taken early in the morning. :

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Imageavmoran
Jan 10, 2012 11:27 AM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
Here are some blues

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This is a seedling out of "Earth and Sky" and is lighter than what it is in real life but color is correct

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This is the SDB "Huck" nad the spot is actually a Navy Blue not violet.

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This one is the IB "Blue Neon" and as you can see it looks purple but it is in fact the bluest thing I have
ImagePollyK
Jan 10, 2012 11:30 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Now, see, Anita, on my computer screen it looks very blue. A medium blue, no purple at all.
ImageBetja
Jan 10, 2012 11:42 AM CST
Name: Betty Jacobs
Bakersfield, CA
Polly, I feel I should make one correction because you indicated that, along with Calif Sue and Boojum, I use an SLR camera -- and I don't even know what an SLR is. I've seen Sue's camera and mine looks nothing like it. Mine is a Nikon Coolpix P60, and it's very small, simple and easy to use. I just use the "auto" feature and I can't take really close-up pictures because it won't focus on anything small or within about 12" away. Unfortunately I am not camera literate at all. But I must confess that when I take pictures in the shade and they come out more blue than the flower really is, I use the "adjust color" feature on my Mac to warm it up until it feels right.

I do have trouble with my camera lightening up darker flowers too much, and darkening them is more problematic with my "adjust color" feature -- usually comes out too dark. But I have discovered that if I take a picture of a dark flower and I and the flower are both in the shade but there is a bright sunny spot in the background, the picture comes out much better.

Betty
ImagePollyK
Jan 10, 2012 12:05 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Sorry, Betty. SLRs are those expensive ones, that all I can tell you. But, you do take fantastic photos!

Have any of you had your monitor calibrated for color? There a device that can do that, but it's 100 or more. I just took mine to a computer store and had it done to calibrate with what I saw as the pics color on my camera, which I compared to the actual flower.
ImageMaryNZ
Jan 10, 2012 1:06 PM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

What lovely photos, everyone, and what a terrific seedling, Anita.

Betty, I will try that technique of using shade with a bright spot in the background. I knew there had to be something, as I have noticed colours are often truer in the distance on my camera. This means it can get them right, but it is a matter of learning to control the circumstances in which that happens (I hope).
My photos are licensed CC BY (Attribution). More Dahlia photos here.
I also spend time in FB Dahlia groups at http://www.facebook.com/groups/363854624030/ and http://www.facebook.com/groups/dahlias/

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