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Imagenaomimade
Apr 24, 2012 10:59 AM CST
Name: Naomi DiVincenzo
Colorado Springs
zone 5b
Good morning all! I haven't done much homework... shame on me.. But I decided to go ahead and try to make some more seed pods, since my first attempt didn't go well.... three sprouted, and died.. (camping trip... I should have been more caring) And the rest blew away but one... I think...
So this morning, I crossed:
Giggles and Grins with Cat's Reign, and vice versa.
G and G
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Cat's Reign
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Indian Pow Wow also with Giggles And Grins
IPP
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And, this mystery violet purple SDB that I kept two years ago because of it's strong PBF... glad I did! It's pretty!
crossed it as well, with Giggles and Grins
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Imagenaomimade
Apr 24, 2012 11:02 AM CST
Name: Naomi DiVincenzo
Colorado Springs
zone 5b
The camera does indeed to strang things with purples and blues.. I didn't notice the streak in front of the beard untill I put the picture on my computer. It's actually more purple than blue... but I like the pic... &;-)
Imageirisarian
Apr 24, 2012 3:22 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
irises
ok any particular reason?
ImageMShadow
Apr 25, 2012 8:39 AM CST
Name: Marilyn Campbell
Houghton Lake, MI
Good luck Naomi!
Imagenaomimade
Apr 26, 2012 8:08 PM CST
Name: Naomi DiVincenzo
Colorado Springs
zone 5b
LOL! Actually Lucy, like I said, I haven't done much home work, so in my little head it's like mixing paints to see what color I get... &:-)
Imageirisarian
Apr 27, 2012 9:22 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
irises
doesn't quite work that way. Tell your library to get a copy of 'The World of Irises' for $18 from AIS & then check it out & read about iris genetics.
Imageirisloverdee
Apr 27, 2012 10:50 AM CST
Name: Dee Stewart
Willamette Valley OR
Snowpeak Iris
Follow your heart and desires:) post all the pictures here so we can see what is happening.

D
Denise Stewart
541-259-2343
Snowpeak http://snowpeakiris.com

Imageirisarian
Apr 27, 2012 7:36 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
irises
I have tried a couple crosses with my red amoena projects. Looking for plants to do crosses for someone else. Very difficult asyou would not believe which plants are not blooming. Even some new SDBs which usually bloom the first year are not sending up bloomstalks, They need more water over the winter & with very little snow & still over 6" short of moisture since Jan. they just make leaves.

Perhaps we can have a leaf show at the end of May, like hosta. Leaves look healthy though.
ImagePollyK
Apr 28, 2012 7:43 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

I think I might be up for a leaf show, Lucy. Wouldn't you think I'd have one SDB blooming! Not. Not even a bud yet.
Imageirisloverdee
Apr 28, 2012 8:39 AM CST
Name: Dee Stewart
Willamette Valley OR
Snowpeak Iris
Well here for the SDB/MDB about 50% bloomed now waiting on the BB< IBand MTB

D
Denise Stewart
541-259-2343
Snowpeak http://snowpeakiris.com

Imagenaomimade
Apr 28, 2012 8:49 PM CST
Name: Naomi DiVincenzo
Colorado Springs
zone 5b
Hi Lucy, I have that book. &:-) Like I said... just dabbling right now.. didnt do any homework. &:-) I don't even know how to get the darn things to sprout once I've made them, so I thought I'd mess around with some 'test seeds'... I will certainly read, read, read when I get serious tho! &:-) And I still an bent on sending your pollen....never fear! &:-)

Thanks for the encouragement Dee.. &:-)
Imageavmoran
Jul 23, 2012 9:28 AM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
naomimade

Other than makeing notes of my crosses
this is my homework

I am looking for unusual, beards, strength of stalk.

Ok Dark Drama has strong stalks beards, and is unusual
Walkara has form stalk and beards.

Walkara on Dark Drama works for me note to self on tag WATCH and you have seen the pics of the results here

I work mostly with dwarfs and medians and from SIGNA ( species)

I try unusual wide crosses ( i.e (Iris leutecens X Chanted) X Music) just to test fertility.
Other than refusing to cross any iris that hits the ground here ( unless violent storm involved) I cross what pleases me and if the results are not what I expect of wany I have a compost pile and more seeds in the frig.

:)
Anita

Imageirisarian
Jul 24, 2012 9:57 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
irises
When
Chanted first arrived in the US, Keith Keppel spread it all over the garden. He found while it had good form istself, it was best crossed to good form.

I. lutescens has the 40c itself so not too wide a cross I think.
I got too pods of 34 & 17 seeds each on the red amoena project. The first was between my seedlings. The secons was seedling X Giggles & Grins. The G & G pollen was sent to me by Naomi. Lovely thing to do.
Imagenaomimade
Sep 23, 2012 10:24 PM CST
Name: Naomi DiVincenzo
Colorado Springs
zone 5b
not a problem Lucy... I love adventures. Thumbs up

I have five little envelopes of SDB seeds now..... what's next? I read on Hortnet that you need to shake the seeds in some sharp sand or nick carefully with a file??? uh... they are kinda tiny... I also read that you should chill them and warm them... etc....still looking and reading up before I figure out what I'm going to do.... then of course I could put them in a pot outside.... Hmmm.... decisions decisions.....
What do you do with your seeds, Lucy? I read last week, that I should have planted them while they were still plump... I thought we were supposed to let them dry up? I'm so confused...
Imageirisloverdee
Sep 24, 2012 7:56 AM CST
Name: Dee Stewart
Willamette Valley OR
Snowpeak Iris
Since you are in CO you will get the correct chilling needed and I have NEVER nicked any seed from iris.

Here is what I do and this is what Keith told me as well, fill pot with good compost/soil, place seeds on top, cover with 1/2 of soil, get some of the finest gravel (like aquarium) gravel and put on top to keep seeds from working up to the top and floating and so the birds and critters are not apt to dig. Put either in a cool dry place, garage, anyplace so the pot will not freeze, check once a month for dampness and watch the babies grow.

I plant mine in Oct or Nov DRY

Good luck

D
Denise Stewart
541-259-2343
Snowpeak http://snowpeakiris.com

Imageavmoran
Sep 24, 2012 8:19 AM CST
Name: Anita Moran
Pylesville, MD Zone 6B
Naomi

I have never needed to do any of that and neither do you since you live in the Springs. In November put a mix of Seed starter soil with native soil in 1 gallon pots then protect them from wind. Keep them moist till freeze and in spring after snow melts. Not wet only moist. May you should see seedlings. Keep moist untilthey have 4 leaves and plant where the can get attention. Start hardening off by giving less water except what nature gives unless you have weeks without rain then water. I give my kids a 25% mix of bloom buster when I plantout for stress and to give them a little boost.

Good Luck

Anita
Imageirisarian
Sep 25, 2012 9:37 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
irises
If they are planted where birds or animals can reach them cover with wire. Be sure to mark any pot or area with the cross. We plant ours at the endo of Oct. No need to be fancy as Anita & Dee say.
Imagenaomimade
Sep 28, 2012 9:48 PM CST
Name: Naomi DiVincenzo
Colorado Springs
zone 5b
Thanks so much ladies... I do need to keep them moist tho, right? The last time I planted seeds, I don't know why, but I forgot how windy it is out here, and they probably blew away with the top two inches of soil in the pots... I'll try the garage. It's not insulated, so it will be an average of 35 - 50 degrees all winter. Does it matter if it's dark in there? Do they need any light at all?
So,
1. Keep moist
2. keep very cool but not frozen
3. when they sprout, take them out of the garage and give them some light? I plan to use the spare bedroom if so....
Imageirisarian
Sep 29, 2012 9:55 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
irises
Remember the seeds need cold. Our seed boxes are in a trench so we have no trouble with wind. We have screening on top of the trench to keep birds & small animals for getting at them.
Imagenaomimade
Oct 10, 2012 4:14 PM CST
Name: Naomi DiVincenzo
Colorado Springs
zone 5b
Hmm... I wonder if the window well would be a good place to keep them?

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