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Imagebrettttt
Aug 1, 2012 9:45 AM CST
Name: Brett Barney
SE Nebraska
Hi all,

I live in rural SE Nebraska on 3/4 acre that used to be almost all lawn. Since we moved in about ten years ago, we've planted gazillions of trees and have gradually tilled up more and more of the lawn to make room for vegetables and ornamentals. My wife is sort of becoming an ornamental grass nut, and I've recently become a bit obsessed with irises. They've held a soft spot in my heart since my childhood, when I remember trying to nurture the ones planted around the borders of my mom's lawn. Those were totally neglected and often cursed ("Those damn flags!"). But then every year they would bloom in the most rich colors and elegant combinations. I was absolutely confounded as to why anyone wouldn't find them amazing.

After collecting rhizomes from just about all of my neighbors (mostly NOIDs) over the past several years, I went a little crazy this year and bought about fifty new cultivars. I've just planted those and am trying to tend them through this miserable heat.

I don't know if it's kosher to ask ID questions here, so I won't for now. But there is one of my NOIDs that I particularly like and that I'd like to get some experts' thoughts about. So I'd appreciate knowing where the best place to ask about it would be.

Best regards,
Brett
ImagePaul2032
Aug 1, 2012 9:54 AM CST
Name: Paul Smith
Pleasant Grove Utah
Grandchildren are my greatest joy.
Welcome Brett.....you are welcome to ask but unless the noid is very unique it will be hard to identify. Pictures help. If you love it give it tender care and don't worry about it's name....call it Brett's favorite in your own garden and if you share it make clear it is a noid. I appreciate all the great ladies here but it is fun to have a few roosters in the hen house so glad to see you here and hope to hear more from you.
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
ImagePollyK
Aug 1, 2012 10:34 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Hi Brett, welcome, welcome!

Love your title:Nebraskan--non-scammer. So, obviousl you've been reading some posts here already.

Believe me, we don't think everyone from Ne is a scammer, we just check the ones we think for URLs that match.

PS, I'm an ornamental grass nut, too. That's how I got started in business, selling OGs to landscapers. Then when I got to be almost 60 I just could not handle the large clumps anymore. But there's nothing like an ornamental grass in it's full glory.

ImageMuddymitts
Aug 1, 2012 11:40 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Kentucky
Hi Brett -- welcome to our little corner of the world!!

I like ornamental grasses too, and have several in my landscaping. They're a joy because they don't require pampering. Neither do Irises, most of the time -- which is a blessing because those of us who are addicted to them have way too many to take care of if they were!! Big Grin

I'm just like you -- loved Irises even as a kid. I remember when I was 11 or 12 years old, and we had just moved to a new subdivision (we were the first ones in the new homes), we were surrounded my grass fields and soybean/corn fields. On one of my day trips out to the wilderness, I happened upon several clumps of Irises growing in the grass in an empty field. I'll never forget them -- they were gold standards and maroon falls and I'd never seen that before. I fell in love with Irises on the spot -- and that night I made my Dad drive me out to that spot with a shovel and dig some up to put in our yard, where they remained all the years that we lived in that house. How I wish I had a clump of them today -- for nostalgia's sake. I'm sure that, compared to today's large, gorgeous ruffled varieties, they would be pretty plain indeed. But they dazzled me then, and I never got over it. Today I am a bonafide addict -- and need a support group to keep me in check.

Ain't gettin' much help here!!!!! Rolling on the floor laughing Hilarious! Rolling on the floor laughing
Every day is a second chance. Every day is precious time.
Imagecrowrita1
Aug 1, 2012 1:13 PM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside Co, Illinois Zone 5A
Hi,! Hello and welcome. Good luck with your I.D.s, I've got a bunch of NOIDs that I intend to try to name next season, also!...Arlyn
Imageirisarian
Aug 1, 2012 1:13 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
irises
Hi my NE grandparents grew peonies & great Uncle ferns. A neihbor beind us in WI grew irises which I love. funny how things work out.
Imagebrettttt
Aug 1, 2012 1:40 PM CST
Name: Brett Barney
SE Nebraska
Thanks, all, for the warm reception. Confirms my experience that gardeners are a generally friendly lot.

About my noid: I realize identifications are tricky, especially when you can't look at the actual flower. And I won't get rid of this iris if I never identify it. But I guess I've been in academia too long--it sort of bothers me not to have better information when I know it must be out there somewhere. I like to learn as much as I can about whatever I'm involved in, and knowing what this flower is would point me in the right direction for further research. So here it is:

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A few months back I came across pictures of "Quaker Lady" (probably at davesgarden.com) and thought that that must be what this is. More recently, though, I saw pictures of "President Pilkington" and became less sure. On mine, the beard and the contrasting coloring of the haft around the beard both seem maybe a little more prominent than on Quaker Lady.

I've thought about just ordering one each of QL and PP and comparing them in person. Of course, maybe I have something different from both. Whatever it is, something about this historic iris just speaks to me. The colors are just so subtle and unexpected. Each individual blossom doesn't last long, but there are quite a few on each plant.

Thanks for any thoughts you might have.
Imagege1836
Aug 1, 2012 2:02 PM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
NY State
I confess to not reading the entire thread
Welcome;
I learned early on to order iris in 3's. Your pix are beautiful Brett
Imagesassafrass
Aug 1, 2012 4:58 PM CST
Name: Sass
up North, just yonder a ways
A Charley's Gal, YES I BE !!
Welcome Brett! Hurray! Thumbs up pretty iris you have there! I have no OG Blinking wonder what all I could grow in SD??? hmm might have to check into that Big Grin
Imagecrowrita1
Aug 2, 2012 10:07 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside Co, Illinois Zone 5A
Hi,! Your picture looks to me more like PP. PP is listed at 40", while QL is listed at 27". You might want to chec out the historic Iris Preservatio Soc., if you haven't already....Arlyn
Imagebrettttt
Aug 2, 2012 12:32 PM CST
Name: Brett Barney
SE Nebraska
Thanks, crowrita1, for pointing that out. Yeah, I've poked around a bit at HIPS, but I hadn't noticed that height difference. And now that I look more closely, I see that someone has mentioned that PP has PBF. I don't recall that with mine, but now I'll have to go check. To complicate things further, I now have another suspect: Dolly Madison. I guess I'll just look at this as an excuse to get a bunch of interesting historical irises :)

Sass: I imagine that most of the OGs we can grow would also grow in SD. We're really newbies with OG, so I don't have any specific suggestions. They sure are pretty. I do wish we could find a nice red one for this zone . . . .

Misawa77
Aug 3, 2012 7:48 AM CST
Name: Greg Hodgkinson
Hanover PA
Brett

Dolly Madison also has purple base foliage (PBF). Dolly is slightly taller than Quaker Lady and is also slightly "fuller" than Quaker Lady.

I know that Katie of Stoney Creek Iris has all three of these cultivars. She may be able to provide pictures of Quaker Lady and President Pilkington.

Greg
ImageMShadow
Aug 3, 2012 8:22 AM CST
Name: Marilyn Campbell
Houghton Lake, MI
Welcome Brett! What ever it is, it is beautiful. Love the beards and hafts. Smiling
Imagebrettttt
Aug 3, 2012 10:14 AM CST
Name: Brett Barney
SE Nebraska
Greg,

Thanks for the tip about Stoney Creek. That's very helpful. I will, no doubt, be placing an order with them soon.

Brett
Imagetveguy
Aug 7, 2012 4:26 AM CST
Name: Tom
Wisconsin
Welcome Brett, I'm a bit late to this thread. I have some ties to Nebraska, as my grandfather and his brother homesteaded there in the mid 1800's. He packed up his family and moved to Wisconsin in the 1860's or so. I too have a NOID similar to yours that I'd like to ID, but have not been able to. It was given to me some years ago. It blooms quite late.
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Believe it or not, this is the same flower, one picture taken in the shade,and one taken in some sunlight. The first picture is closer to it's real color then the second, exactly why it's so hard to ID them from a photo. I think your idea of purchasing a few known iris that are similar so that you can compare bloom time, hight, and color will be the best way to go to get an accurate ID.

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