General Discussion forum: EML Blooming TB's

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ImagePattyN
Jan 18, 2013 12:59 PM CST
Name: Patty
Willamette Valley Oregon
I'm looking for recommendations that bloom EML seasons. I have:
Abbondanza
American Classic 😻
Badlands
Brides Halo
Celebration Song
Come Away With Me
Exotic Star
Jumping
Moonlit Water
Take Five
Millenium Sunrise


Patty 🌺
ImageMuddymitts
Jan 18, 2013 6:05 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Kentucky
EML -- Early, Mid, Late?
Every day is a second chance. Every day is precious time.
Imageirisloverdee
Jan 18, 2013 6:50 PM CST
Name: Dee Stewart
Willamette Valley OR
Snowpeak Iris
Some iris are listed as EML because the hybridizer does not always catch whether it is E;M or L

D
Denise Stewart
541-259-2343
Snowpeak http://snowpeakiris.com

ImagePollyK
Jan 18, 2013 8:02 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Yes, as Dee said, they are just registered as EML, as the hybridizer didn't pay attention to the bloom time.

Here's a list of rebloomers from some of our people on here. That might help? Maybe someone is in a similar zone as you.
ImagePattyN
Jan 18, 2013 8:31 PM CST
Name: Patty
Willamette Valley Oregon
Hmm... A couple of the ones on my list I just got last year so haven't seen them bloom yet but the others really do bloom all season... Badlands and American Classic especially are there from start to finish. 😻
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ImagePattyN
Jan 18, 2013 8:38 PM CST
Name: Patty
Willamette Valley Oregon
Now I'm curious! I'll try keeping bloom dates this year.
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ImagePollyK
Jan 18, 2013 9:24 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

That would be great if you did, and let us know the results!
Imagecrowrita1
Jan 19, 2013 9:34 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside Co, Illinois Zone 5A
I could be wrong...I usually am...but I thought the EML season denoted an Iris that could(and usually does) send up stalks throughout the "iris season". Starting bloom with the last of the IB's, and then continuing till the last of the TB's. The only one I grow is "Above the Clouds"(Schriener). I do grow "Jean Guymer", which is listed as an "everbloomer", but It isn't old enough to be well established , hopefully, this year she'll show her full potential.There are several webpages that help explain the differences in types of bloom time and rebloom seasons. Winterberry gardens is the easiest for me to understand....arlyn
ImagePattyN
Jan 19, 2013 12:25 PM CST
Name: Patty
Willamette Valley Oregon
Arlyn, that's what I thought too, but I never actually kept track of any of them to verify and I'm in lala land in May 😛 anyway! The 2 I mentioned I've had the longest and they are there the whole season. I'm practically tired of Badlands by the time it's over!!! (It also grows like a maniac so I have a love/hate relationship with it 😡) I like Above the Clouds and Jean is a pretty pink. Thank you!
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ImagePattyN
Jan 19, 2013 12:35 PM CST
Name: Patty
Willamette Valley Oregon
PS Arlyn... The Winterberry site is super, thanks!
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ImagePollyK
Jan 19, 2013 8:55 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

I'm just getting my info from all the ones that are registered EML, and certainly don't bloom all season.
Misawa77
Jan 19, 2013 10:18 PM CST
Name: Greg Hodgkinson
Hanover PA
I pay attention as to when a certain cultivar starts blooming and have data going back to 2008. I do not keep data as to how late/long one blooms. My impression was that the EML label meant that the cultivar was not restricted to any timeframe and that it could/would bloom at different times in the season at different locations across the country. Had not really considered the fact that the hybridizer "missed" this fact.

To illustrate. I have "Point in Time"; a Sterling Innerst introduction. The cultivar is listed as mid to late season (ML). It is one of my early birds and has been so since I got it. I have moved it this last "dig" season and will see if it moves its bloom time because this. I live very close to where this cultivar was created so it should be a ML, but has been an "E" for me.

This discussion may come down to; soil content, water levels, micro-climates, fertilizing schedule (or lack thereof), health of rhizome, size of rhizome, sun/shade factor, and if it was moved recently (or the reverse; if the clump is over due to be dug up: ie it went "condo".
Hosenemesis
Jan 20, 2013 1:53 AM CST
Thanks for the info on EML. I always thought it meant they had a long bloom season.
Imagecrowrita1
Jan 20, 2013 9:32 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside Co, Illinois Zone 5A
Renee, this would make a good subject for the AIS blog! I know it's been "touched upon", but never fully covered.The way the E, VE, M, L codes really work is not fully understood by everyone, and, I think it was actually changed at one time. I think now it applies to season in the particular class, rather than "calender" season, isn't it?...Arlyn
ImageSnork
Jan 20, 2013 8:14 PM CST
Name: Pam
Southeastern PA
Hi Patty N
I have a few of the iris that you mentioned - Bride's Halo, Exotic Star and Millenium Sunrise. In my garden in SW PA these all bloom well, but I do not get an extended bloom period from any of them. I do have a several that I can recommend;

Sterlings Mistress A light pink plicata
Kissing Circle A purple plicata
Jurassic Park A monstrous yellow and lavender

These all bloom early and continue to bloom through the entire season, for me anyway. They are all older varieties and are generally readily available.

Good luck!
Hosenemesis
Jan 20, 2013 8:26 PM CST
Thanks for the idea, Arlyn. I'll do some research or suggest the topic to a more experienced member of the blogging team. I really appreciate it!
Renee
Imageirisloverdee
Jan 20, 2013 11:55 PM CST
Name: Dee Stewart
Willamette Valley OR
Snowpeak Iris
I will see Keith Keppel and will ask him on this subject.\\
D
Denise Stewart
541-259-2343
Snowpeak http://snowpeakiris.com

Imagetveguy
Jan 21, 2013 10:25 AM CST
Name: Tom
Wisconsin
I have a couple that seem to have really long bloom cycles. One is Going Dutch, a Van Liere, and the other is H.C. Stetson. Going Dutch is one of the first ones in that bed to bloom, and continues until the end of the season. H.C. Stetson isn't quite as long a season. Another one that seems to have a bit longer season is Brazen Beauty. (although not as long as the first two.)
I have Bride's Halo, it starts blooming mid to late season, but doesn't have an extended time here either.
Going Dutch - Van Liere 2009 H. C. Stetson - Stetson 2001
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Brazon Beauty - Meek 1994
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ImagePattyN
Jan 21, 2013 11:38 AM CST
Name: Patty
Willamette Valley Oregon
Pam ~ thanks for the suggestions... Plicatas are my favorite iris and Sterlings Mistress is lovely!

Tom ~ thank you too... They are all beauties! I have don't have any white iris so these look like good bets and I LOVE Brazen Beauty!
Patty 🌺
ImagePollyK
Jan 21, 2013 11:43 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Love that Brazen Beauty!



Patty, it also could be that it's E or M or L, and used to designate an iris that is variable in it's bloom. I'll be interested in what Mr. Keppel has to say, De.

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