General Discussion forum: The Historic Sass Irises . .

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ImageGardenguy
Sep 15, 2015 4:55 AM CST
Name: Patrick
Toms River, New Jersey Zone 7
I realized that I have planted a few of the Historic Sass Irises in my garden. So far, I have (2) of Prairie Sunset, (2) of The Red Douglas, and (2) of Rameses. The one Sass Iris I am looking for
is Al lu we (1933). Does anyone grow any of the Sass Irises and know where I may find Al lu we? Thanks in advance.
jlkapps
Sep 15, 2015 5:12 AM CST
Name: Judy
north Texas
I'll check my stock and see if mine is big enough to divide. It often comes up for sale in the HIPS annual sale or through some of the other historic vendors like the Pickle Barrel House.
ImageGardenguy
Sep 15, 2015 5:20 AM CST
Name: Patrick
Toms River, New Jersey Zone 7
Thank you so much. I have all of the HIPS ROOTS issues going back to 2012, and I have checked and saw that Al lu we has been available thru the HIPS Rhizome Sale. I'm hoping it is available this year as well. Thanks again.
jlkapps
Sep 15, 2015 5:23 AM CST
Name: Judy
north Texas
It was available this year but the sale has ended. I will try to locate one for you, though, even if mine isn't large enough to divide if it's not too late for planting in your part of the country?
ImageGardenguy
Sep 15, 2015 5:44 AM CST
Name: Patrick
Toms River, New Jersey Zone 7
That's ok Judy, Thanks. I think I can wait until next year. I want to see what ends up blooming for me in the Spring and what doesn't, or what rots over the winter. Then I'll definitely have space for Al lu we. So keep in touch. Thanks again for your kindness.
Imagecrowrita1
Sep 15, 2015 8:43 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside Co, Illinois Zone 5A
Well, hopefully you won't have any winter losses.....the last two years have been terrible ,here, as well as for lots of the country ! I'd like to see a somewhat "milder" winter than what we've had, the last two years !
ImageDaveinPA
Sep 15, 2015 9:22 AM CST
Name: Dave
south central PA, Zone 6a
Al-Lu-We is a fairly rare Sass iris with no commercial sellers. One did sell it a year or so back but no longer. Mine was replanted this year after my move so is rather small now but hopefully it will survive and send off some pups. If it does well you have a backup source.
ImageGardenguy
Sep 15, 2015 1:34 PM CST
Name: Patrick
Toms River, New Jersey Zone 7
I know what you mean, Arlyn, but here in NJ, the forecast is for a much Colder Winter with a lot of precipitation. So, I am wondering about whether or not to provide any type of winter protection and covering for the iris. Any thoughts ?
ImageGardenguy
Sep 15, 2015 1:59 PM CST
Name: Patrick
Toms River, New Jersey Zone 7
Thanks, Dave. I have it on my Wish List. I did get a reply from OzarkIrisGardens and they think they may have it, they are going to check and get back to me. If it shows up, great,
if not, no problem, there are certainly more than enough on my Wish List that will be readily available ! LOL.
Imagecrowrita1
Sep 15, 2015 2:53 PM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside Co, Illinois Zone 5A
Well, Patrick...if they get "rooted in" before the ground freezes......they*should* be able to handle anything winter might throw at them. That said, I know some folks apply a "mulch", after the ground freezes, to help prevent 'heaving" of the rhizomes.....and then remove it, very early in the spring. I've never done that with bearded iris....so, I would have to *guess* that you would want something that won't "pack down".....pine straw, or maybe straw ? Maybe someone who has done , or still does, do it, will chime in.
Imageirisarian
Sep 15, 2015 3:22 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
irises
why are pine needles called 'pine straw'? We put them on new plantings. However earlier new plants were tested this afternoon & they have all grabbed onto the ground. Sept planning more apt to need a winter mulch. Remove in the spring.
Imagecrowrita1
Sep 15, 2015 3:54 PM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside Co, Illinois Zone 5A
Shrug! I really don't KNOW why, Lucy ?! I always gather my own, from under some ones pine trees, but, I know the nursery I go to sells "bales" of pine needles ( I think they are Sothern Long-Leaf Pine...about 8"-9" long !), and they have a sign next to the stack....and call it 'baled pine straw" Shrug! .
ImageGardenguy
Sep 15, 2015 4:04 PM CST
Name: Patrick
Toms River, New Jersey Zone 7
Well, mine were all potted up for weeks before being transplanted into the ground -
and all rhizomes had very extensive root systems. They were transplanted into the ground
about 2-3 weeks ago, so maybe they will be OK this winter and will not need to be covered with 'pine straw'.
Imageirisarian
Sep 15, 2015 9:38 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
irises
I can see why the long leaf pine needles might be called pine straw. We use our white pine needles here & they are quite short, but useful. Whistling
Imagegrannysgarden
Sep 16, 2015 5:11 AM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake, Arkansas, zone 7
The Magnolia Zone
The term was made up when pine needles were first marketed. They were considered death to a garden by so many gardeners in the sough because 'nothing' would grow under the pine trees. Selling pine straw in the south is still rare and you have to search for a vendor. And to some old gardeners if you said 'pine straw' you would have to clarify that they were pine needles.
ImageGardenguy
Sep 16, 2015 7:41 AM CST
Name: Patrick
Toms River, New Jersey Zone 7
The 'pine straw' was recommended to me because I also have Louisiana iris, which I was told do infact need Winter protection in my Zone. I was really just curious to know if my TB Iris also needed protection, but since all of my TB Iris are "Historics" I am assuming that they are all relatively hardy enough in my Zone to withstand the Winters here without any protection.

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