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Imagemqiq77
Feb 11, 2010 7:31 PM CST
Name: Mike Quinn
Danielsville, Ga.
Clutter control,be organized, not f
Hello cubiteers, My name is Mike, and I have spent my life developing a cluttered mess. My storage areas are like Fibber McGees closet. I first became aware of my clutter when DW ran out of space to store her clutter, and shoved it in with mine. This is war. Mine are possibilities, and hers is useless junk. I have been in a helpless state of clutter for so long, that I can't see my way out.
My thoughts are the things that cause clutter, is it begins with a cluttered mind. Trapped in the thought that its a helpless situation, and there is no help. I attended a birthday party for a dear one that was celebrating her 8th BD of sobriety. Thats wonderful. The people are sincere in helping each other grow, and I have developed a fond appreciation for each of them. They are real people, with real lives, and we all live here in this world together. I didn't want to call this forum " Clutters anonymous", but its the same cry for help, and I hope I'm not alone.
So, after giving this a serious thought, I thought that there was an opening for "Clutters" Am I alone? Mike
Imagestarlight1153
Feb 12, 2010 11:57 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Hi Mike!!!!!!! No your are not the only cluttered person around.

I have clutter of all types and importance. I have the dustball gathering clutter. The clutter that just nevre seems to get filed away properly. Then there is the " I just might need this one day" clutter.

Now one time I did try and get rid of the clutter in my craft shed. Wood, ribbon, glue, paints, you name it , I probbaly had it out there. I had so much clutter that I could no longer get in the front door of the shed.

I was talkign to another craft friend ad told her I was tossing out a bunch of craft clutter. She told me hodl on she was coming for it. Her and her husband came in their van and with a trailer. Yep, a trailer was needed.

We fileld up the van and the trailer as high and ful as we could get them. For the first tiem in years, I was able to sweep and move aroudn in my shed and even fidn my worktable and chair. Oh what a happy day!

Then many months later I wa s at her house which had becoem very cluttered. She now found herself in the same position I was. She informe d she was goign to throw out a bunch of stuff.

Can you guess? I couldn't let all them good supplies and goodies go to the trash, so ther e we were loadign things back to my house. Things orginally from me and things from her.

For years nwo we have had this on again - off again of moving clutter back and forth to our houses. Same stuff over and over with the hope s that one day we wil have to do it.

I'm gettign the urge to sprign clean again, and can't mov ein the shed again, so it abotu tiem to call her up and say hey I throwing stuff out, yoru turn to hous eit for awhile. : )
Imagemqiq77
Feb 12, 2010 6:54 PM CST
Name: Mike Quinn
Danielsville, Ga.
Clutter control,be organized, not f
Ella, people with "clutter", are usually the ones that are the busy people, and more creative, and thats why we keep these (possibilities) where we can use them, but never find them
I have met very smart tradesmen, and they knew where every tool, and every piece of stock they need. I have wasteded a half day trying to find certian tools, or a piece of stock that I thaught sure I would need one day, but could never fins.I don't feel alone in this, but it is very depressing, and it tends to make our situation worse.
I am a good black smith, and steel worker, and have tons of supplies.Now I had to quit welding, and using equipment that causes magnatism, around my pasemaker.
Most of the (posibilities), I have would not mean a thing to someone else who does not have the mindset to make it work.My trade was learned from an old world apprentis, My uncle.Who will I pass this down to?
So now I am stuck with a cluttered mind, and no ability to get anything done.I need to set up my black smith shop, but is that the best order of business? This is why I feel we can help each other, and get organised. Mike
Imagegardengus
Feb 14, 2010 7:57 AM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5a
Truth is worth finding
I have come to confess to being a keepaholic , I keep way to many things
I already have found a reason and the first step to help here.
My Grandmothers maiden name is McGee so maybe that Fibber guy is a relative.
Can one fight genetics? Smiling
Cinda
Imagewaterbird
Feb 14, 2010 12:00 PM CST
Name: Carolyn Lamb
Indiana zone 6b
Laugh and the World laughs with you
Well big problem here too. between me and Dh we have no room to put anything else, why because we keep everything. What a terrible vice this can be for someone who lives in a trailer and has to rent a storage building to have room for it all. I have clothes in the closet that I haven't been able to wear for years and I think when I look at them maybe just maybe one day I could wear them again, but deep I know I won't and have a problem of not being able to get rid of them. What would you call this obsessive?
Imagemqiq77
Feb 14, 2010 1:12 PM CST
Name: Mike Quinn
Danielsville, Ga.
Clutter control,be organized, not f
Welcome Cinda, and waterbird.We have made the first step, and have admitted that we not only have a problem with (Clutter), but in our own way admit to having an addiction.
Now with each others help, we can capture this beast, and gain control of our sences, by controling it rather than it controling us.I can't ask DW to join me yet, because she is more (Posessed), with clutter.
I think, if we would admit it, we could just toss our junk, and be a big head start on the problem.However, we have acquired these treasures, with a purpose in mind, that they were "possibilities".If we can agree on this, then we can continue.
I have gathered my junk, with the possibility of making something useful out of it.Whether we use it or some one else uses it, does it really make a difference?
Our probelem is not that we poses clutter, but that it has a hold on us, because we have the little guilt that we didn't accomplish our intent, at least thats what I have derived.I amopen to each of us comming up with a plan to rid ourselves of the clutter in our minds, and in our life.
Maybe we should "scan" some of the cubits of making use of things that are no longer useful, and trying to apply it to our already overstocked treasure chest of goods.However we handle this, we discuss it within our cubit, and help each other come up with solutions, and I believe we will get involved with a healthy help solution.
I like to think of it as people with like minded needs, making like minded solutions, so help me folks, and I will devote my time in serch of new ideas. Mike
Imagewaterbird
Feb 14, 2010 1:16 PM CST
Name: Carolyn Lamb
Indiana zone 6b
Laugh and the World laughs with you
Oh Mike, I have searched far and wide for a solution to my problem but just can't seem to find one. Everyone tells me if you don't use it you don't need it and that just doesn't register with me. Sad
Imagestarlight1153
Feb 14, 2010 1:49 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Carolyn.. Doesn't register with me either. I think some of the problem is things just cost so much money, and that is somethign there never seems to be enough of, so you save, scourer things from the road-side trash , and collect and hopr to have the time to work with them.

Maybe that is one of the problems, stuff colelcts up, becaus e we don't manage our time to get back to our ideas that we needed the stuff for in the first place.

My friend that I mention with out back and forth. People are always droppign things off at her house thinkign mayeb she coudl us eit. It gatehr s up and makes clutter for her, but I tell ya, let somebody be in need of something and they the first people we all call. 9 times out of 10 they have it from wher e they gathered it or somebody dropped it off.

With the jumble mess they look at it this way, what they find, gather save and are gifted from folks, is a blessing, that usually gets passed on to somebody else who ha s a need.

When things pile up too high, they gather stuff and lucky them they have a salvation army in short walking distance from the house.

Now I did this past summer get rid of a few clothes. Too, I know I am never gonna be that size again. Every year I waste water and electric givign them a wash and putting right back into closet, but I have more that needs to go. Heck I have a couple of blouses in my closet that are way back from 1972. Just becaus e they were favorites. Oh.. shame on me. *Blush* Whistling
Imagewaterbird
Feb 15, 2010 9:39 AM CST
Name: Carolyn Lamb
Indiana zone 6b
Laugh and the World laughs with you
I have some evening gowns that I needed way back when I was going to our Presidents Club thingy and I still have them just because they were so expensive and I know I won't get my money out of them but they are just going to waste but can't bring myself to get rid of them. Sad state of affairs, don't you think.
Imagestarlight1153
Feb 15, 2010 10:23 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Now another way I justify clutter is the fact that if everybody threw out there clutter, than we wouldn't have need of the words, classic, vintage , centennial and like that.

I miss soem of the vintage clothes lines and down here have not found one. Used to be one in a mall in indiana and i love d shopping there.
Imagemqiq77
Feb 15, 2010 11:27 AM CST
Name: Mike Quinn
Danielsville, Ga.
Clutter control,be organized, not f
Carolyn, I am so glad that your "wheels" are turning.You are on the road to clutter free.
Personally, I have more to discard, than anyone, because I actually would stop, and pick up "road treasures", and that futher shackled me to the mess. Now I can't seem to locate the desired mes/

Can we agree to support each other in this matter, and offer soultions.

(1) Lets go through our [junk], and discard a car load per week, to see if we have a relief.

Any other ideas?
Mike
Imagestarlight1153
Feb 15, 2010 1:43 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Oh Mike... That a good idea, but I can't do that until I unload all the junk in my car now. The fron't back seat and it a station wagon are full of junk and supplies I do need.

The two tents I have for market are stil in there from last year July. Had no other place to put them and this way I wouldn't los e the legs and hinges for market here this year. But there is still last year advertising signs and junk from last year in there and stuff gathere d from friends houses. Gues s the car needs to be my first priority. Somaybe I wil have mroe room to haul merchandise to sell instead of all my coffee cups from the hous e that never made it back in cuz my arms was full with somethign else at the time.
Imagekathysflowerpatch
Feb 15, 2010 7:00 PM CST
Name: Kathy
Southcentral PA.
clutter of the worst kind. I have alot of things from my mom and sister who both passed away. I have been thinking of going through it all with this thought in mind , "Will you wear it ever?" No in bag to donate. "Will you use it, really?" and Will you read it ? .
I have come to realize that the things I have will not bring them back, a few things with memories are fine but not hourdes of stuff. Clothes I won't wear, books that are not to my taste or pictures that I would NEVER hang!

I have been so good for along time as far as other clutter habits go, avoiding thrift stores like the plague, yard sales. I am a sucker for a good buy whether I need it or not! My husband used to buy any type of tent he could find, we had tents in car trunks and forgot where they came from years later. Makes ya wonder?

So kinda strange I stumble on to this cubit, I may say all the above. But will I really follow through?

Kathy
Imagemqiq77
Feb 15, 2010 7:19 PM CST
Name: Mike Quinn
Danielsville, Ga.
Clutter control,be organized, not f
Ella, we do have our problems.It took me three years, but I now have a clutter free truck.That is because I ask my wife to get involved with this, and there were times that I was sorry, but we worked that out together.The absolute answer was cleane, and neat. Hay!, I'm still living, and am now use to a clean truck.

Kathy, Your problem is an almost obligation to keep things as your sister, and mother had, and where getting rid of things are concerned, maybe you feel that it isn't your place to dispose of things.If there are really No keepsakes, then why obligate yourself to the task of having to dispose of them.Maybe your mother, and sister would have had them on the way out, before they passed away. I'm sorry for your loss, BTW.I think you do have a good handle on the situation, as is, and to go through things would be a clutter free journey. LMK how things work out, really we want miss the stuff as much as we think.. Mike
Imagegardengus
Feb 15, 2010 8:48 PM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5a
Truth is worth finding
I read an idea somewhere If you have sentimental things that you don't really need to keep but the memory is important take a picture , keep a memory book and discard the items .
I have done this with some of my kids things , kids are now 21 and 24.
Imagemqiq77
Feb 16, 2010 12:28 AM CST
Name: Mike Quinn
Danielsville, Ga.
Clutter control,be organized, not f
OK, those good thaughts are in the works. Thats what we are about. Helping eachother. Mike
Imagewaterbird
Feb 16, 2010 8:13 AM CST
Name: Carolyn Lamb
Indiana zone 6b
Laugh and the World laughs with you
If I keep talking on here with you all I am slowly convincing myself that I need to start in the bedroom and the Closets. Just keep tallking to me and I'll get started soon, the more I think about it the more the urge is taking root.
Imagewoofie
Feb 16, 2010 9:02 AM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA zone 5a
As the other half of a pair of "keep-too-many-acs," this looks to me like a great forum idea. I've read a lot of really good thoughts here on WHY we end up with so much "stuff." Fortunately, both DH and I have gotten really tired of tripping over stuff, so we both have been "trying" to get rid of the truly useless things. He's working on the shop (do we really need parts for cars we no longer have?) and I'm trying to work on the stacks of paper and plastic in the house. Aaak, my pantry is a disaster....all those little plastic containers and lids...and nobody ever goes to find the lid for the container, just uses plastic wrap instead. And lord knows what is really in those cabinets. Now if we could just find a way to throw things out faster than we bring them in.....
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
Imagemqiq77
Feb 16, 2010 9:46 AM CST
Name: Mike Quinn
Danielsville, Ga.
Clutter control,be organized, not f
Thank you Carolyn, I am so glad we have made a spark, in trying to be organised.There is surly hope.BTW, are your parents of the depression area? Mine were, and I got it honest, but when I remember growing up, it was "waste not, want not", but sorry, that causes problems today.Use to we would hold things for the possibility of giving it to less fourtunant, but now, they wouldn't have it, now how about that!? We have here a home for men, that are being rehabilitated, and comming to grips with alcohol/drug addiction, and there is more talent there, than any other comunity I have ever encountered.They will take anything, and fix it up, and sell it in a store, that they run, and that is as good as you can get.You don't waste any thing, and it gives people something to do.

Great to see you woffie, and yes, I thaught you might have the same problem, as I, because of our mindset.Yes, it is a form of addiction.Things we worked so hard to come by, are now, unfortunantly, are of no longer value.I am thinking of a well windless, that I helped fabricate, back when, and the in tention was to last forever.I have a 3' gum log, with a 4' handle driven through it, and by golly, its the hardest thing for me to get rid of.I remember line boring the gum log, heating the (square)i" rod, and driving it into the center of the log, and dunking it in a watering trough.[Memories], and little more.I know I can rig up a "dumy" well, and do a planting, but can't even start that.You see, we are owned by thes things.
So, good folks, lets endever to try to help each other, Like a suport group, to unclutter our minds. Thank you, Mike
Imagestarlight1153
Feb 16, 2010 9:46 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
So true woofie.

Part of my shed, I can't use because it is fileld with all my son's school papers, toys sicne he was a kid, his drawings, and odd thinsg he collected and saved.

I have at times goen out there and started going through his junk. Toys which I feel were really special to him, or that could be coem a collector sitem someday. Those I holding on too. The rest I have been bagging up and puttign in containers to take to the flea market. It amazign sometiems how those quarters add up. Took one day in good workign order, his very first nitendo set and tapes for it when nitendo first came out. he'll never play on them again, but got soem bucks for the machien and three bucks for each tape I had with it. That what a nice little chunk of change to go buy somethign I wanted with. LOL

Garage sale sare good, if you lvo ein an area that it easy for folsk to find, btu that takes alot fo work, if you onyl have a few items. Flea markets work the best for that.

if you do a garage sale, you need topalce ads, put up signs, buy supplies for the signs, take down signs, worry abotu folks maybe walkign off with your hubbies weedeater when you weren't looking, tramping and stepping all over and through the grass and flowerbeds.

You may go through all that and stil not have any folsk show up. At least at a fle amarket there is traffic. You need traffice to sell and most table fees for flea markets are abotu 3-7 bucks depending on it you bring yoru own table or not.

heck depending upon what you have some other vendors who make their living with buying and selling will come around early while your setting up and if the price right, will buy you out even before you get started and you can go back home to that cup of coffee.

The oen thing I see that people do make mistake s at home and for garage sales is they don't pric e anything. I want to see a pric e then haggle you if I feel it too much. Nothign frosts my cookie s more than I ask the price of an unmarke ditem and am told fiv e bucks and somebody else comes along and asks and they get told two bucks. I leave.

Also, I see folsk that now have cleare d the clutter out , goto markets and just dump it on the table. I have no tiem for those booths. I don't mind digging through a pile of clothes, for sizes a slong as they all men's pants for example.

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I have awakened to the realization that I am owned and addicted to my own clutter. I am not at all an expert on much, and certainly not this subject. I feel like if we can just admit that there is a problem..together we can over come. Mike

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