Rocky Mountain Gardening forum: Do any of you rocky mountainers grow broccoli?

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acpawlek
Mar 11, 2010 11:44 AM CST
Anyone here ever have any luck with broccoli? I've never had any luck in Denver/Englewood.
ImageDonkeyJay
Mar 11, 2010 4:25 PM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
I'm giving it a try this year, again. I tried last year, but planted too late, only got one tiny head. Still, it's a start. Rolling my eyes.

I'm going to try putting a couple of seedlings into wallo waters this week, see how they like it. The tatsoi I put in the ground yesterday did OK overnight under row cover.

I grew broccoli raab a couple of years ago with good success, but I don't really like it.
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acpawlek
Mar 16, 2010 10:21 AM CST
I've only ever gotten a tiny head, too, but I'm thinking its made for a late fall harvest.
ImageDonkeyJay
Mar 16, 2010 10:34 AM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
So far my little seedlings I've set out are doing well... except for the one that got bitten off last night. Grrr. But I'm going to put more out in the tunnel today. The first ones held up thru a 10º night, either in a wallo water or under row cover.
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ImageNEILMUIR1
Apr 7, 2010 12:59 PM CST
Name: Neil
London\Kent Border
Dear all, it is a member of the cabbage family (Brassica), so prefers a limey soil. However it fails in loose soil, it prefers a richer soil with plenty of organic matter in it!
Dig where you are going to grow it in the Autumn\Fall adding lots of manure or compost,and lime it if necessary, Add some National Growmore in the spring at 1 1\2 oz per sq. yard, rake well in.
We have a lot of cabbage root fly here so I put collars around the plants. Also watch out for Cabbage white fly as the larva feed on the leaves and anything else.
I plant Nasturtiums abut 5 yards away and as they prefer them, I do not mind if they eat them and leave my cabbages etc alone. Planting marigolds and lavender near them also help as the smells confuse them!
In the UK we sow them in the second week in April till the end of May. Then harvest the green variety in or about second week in August till the second week in October, depending on the weather!
They like water if dry, tap water is fine for them as here it is limy!
Keep cutting them and if the winter is mild earth up the plants and stake. You may get a lot more.
Regards.
Neil.


ImageDonkeyJay
Apr 11, 2010 10:05 AM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
Sweetie, winters aren't mild in the Rocky Mountains... and our soil is more alkaline, so adding lime is counter productive (this includes wood ashes). My first frost date is around Sept. 15th... leaving broccoli out til the second week of Oct. is a good way to loose the crop...yes, they can handle a light frost, but by that time we may well get a hard, very hard frost.

I'm zone 5 at 7100', my last average frost date seems to be June 1, my first Sept. 15th. Humidity averages around 20%, so the air is dry and often it's windy. These are major factors in the Rockies.

Thanks for the pest advice, it seems darn near everything eats broccoli, except George Bush, but I don't expect to find him in my garden.
Hilarious! Mostly I grow stuff under row covers, both to protect against bugs and to shelter the plants from the drying wind.
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ImageNEILMUIR1
Apr 11, 2010 10:34 AM CST
Name: Neil
London\Kent Border
I do apologize, I should have mentioned that is how we grow it in the UK! Well in some parts as it is a lot colder up north than in the south. Also we do have different varieties to the US as I did not know any of them when I looked them up. Mine survived 20F over the winter, but that is nothing to what you get. Pests are always a problem, so a lot of people net them with very fine net and plant herbs and annuals near them. That is if you do not wish to use chemicals as that is taboo here!
Regards from England.
Neil.
Imagebsavage
Apr 11, 2010 6:35 PM CST
Name: Brenda
Dolores, Colorado
Hi Neil, thanks so much for your advice! I thought gardening in Arizona was a challenge (which it was, and we learned and did well with it, but it took time and mistakes...). Living here in Colorado now, like DonkeyJay we are at 7000 feet elevation, so wind and huge temperature swings are a big challenge. Without the use of things like Jay uses (wall o'waters, hoop houses, greenhouses, etc.), I can't put anything outside until late May. But, we are getting lovely bursts of spring here finally!

We are not growing broccoli as it is not my favorite... but we will be getting started with peas this week, maybe a few other cold hardy things. Hooray for spring!
ImageDonkeyJay
Jun 16, 2010 6:21 AM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
We ate our first ever home grown broccoli last week, and I'm sold! Wow, the flavor is so different. I'm definitely going to refine my skills for growing more.

I've got mine under floating row cover, and we lost several to sow bugs, but after trying trying some bait with iron and spinosad, we got them under control. The 4 plants we have left produced small to medium heads, and we're waiting now for the side shoots to develop. I'm also going to start more seeds.

It was a loooong cold spring, that's for sure!

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Imagebsavage
Jun 16, 2010 9:54 AM CST
Name: Brenda
Dolores, Colorado
Congrats on your broccoli! I bet it tastes great! It was a long cold spring here as well. Actually, we really didn't have spring... went from winter to summer, and only a few weeks ago! It is beautiful now though. We haven't even gotten to the veggie garden yet, but my flower beds and gardens are looking good!

Brenda
ImageDonkeyJay
Jun 16, 2010 10:13 AM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
I know what you mean.... morning temps: 28º May 24th, 55º two weeks later. Santa Fe hit 100º for the first time in recorded history last week.

We eat a lot of broccoli, so this hasn't really made a dent, but now I know it's worth investing the energy to become a Broccoli Mavin LOL

We've had plenty of lettuce and spring greens... better work on that cold frame for next spring! The one tomato I did manage to get in the ground last month is thinking about blooming... yes, it's in a wallo water. Big Grin

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