Put out the word when you can... All of our threads are under the "Pieces Make a Whole:" Quilting Forum. which is part of the Sewing Forum... There are several I would wish to ask here but I can't seem to post in DG. Maybe they have read where I have directed people here and aren't letting me post anymore. I don't really know...I'm going over there and check shortly to see if anything has changed....
What a mess DG is right now. And of course, we have no recourse.... I'm glad I was able to get this started here. Now I need to go through my address book and send emails to all I have and address for so they can come if they choose to. So many friends I haven't seen post anywhere and I miss them all.....
seems like DG announced a couple days ago that there were more changes being made (I didn't receive anything personally, that's just what I read someone else had posted), so maybe their new programmers are trying out some new voodoo magic and the smoke hasn't cleared yet... I couldn't get a reply to post anywhere, in fact the Post button is gone from the pages. I even skipped over to whatever forum that was handy and they are all the same way. Me thinks that Karma is abound!!!
I think this thread is the right thing to do at this point. All we can do is to point the way over, we can't make anyone to join us if they don't want to. Personally, I can't see why anyone would want to stay 'over there' with all the confusion. This place is easy to navigate - just 'Watch' the threads that you want to visit and they will pop up as they update, just like the old site used to do. Years back, when you all started moving to Cubits, I felt very out of place, since most of you had been together for years and had swapped and knew each other so well. Eventually, I felt more at ease in the discussions, but usually 'lurk' more than I do chat. Except for days like today.. lol
During the discussion on the ATP threads about opening the new Quilting chat on Sandbox, at first I thought it was neat that someone jumped in to start one for all of us to gather in. Then suddenly, it was filled with lots of people and pretty quilts that I didn't know and I felt very odd-man-out for some reason, like I was trying to join a group that I wasn't qualified for.. Is that normal?? At 60 yrs old, and plenty of life experiences that changed me, I shouldn't have felt like that. Like a mass convergence........ I remember over in the old threads, someone would pop in and ask questions or advice on quilting, we would welcome them and answer their questions and they would never show up again. Maybe I'm not the only one who has this issue, but I feel more comfy with you all... awwww Aren't warm and fuzzies nice???
Kiz, I think it's normally for people to feel at ease when they know lots of people, have a good "history" with members. It takes TIME to make that happen and some are more sensitive than others. Some people need more encouragement and for lack of a better word, nurturing, in order to feel included. Sometimes people see & feel what they expect to experience!
I'm sorry you felt like the odd-man out. I imagine we all have at one time or another. I do believe that is one good attribute of DG quilting forums, we did make an effort to make visitors feel welcome and encourage them to become part of the group.
And we can do the same thing here Pat. We from DG are all so very close now and so part of the problem (at least to me) was that I was joining their group instead of them joining ours. I felt lost as well as the site is so big so that's when I decided we needed a place to "establish" ourselves again and then feel free to offer others to join us. I will post a link in the Sandbox spot later today.
OK I admit it, I did a bit of lurking in the sandbox. Partly because I'm still catching particular H*** for supposedly "lying" about someone. Sigh.
Anyhow they are having a field day about all the problems at DG. I'm very unhappy about it too but not to the point when I want to smugly jeer at us for trying to stay.
I am keeping quiet regarding my feelings about DG too. I keep trying and so far no go. I'm glad I started these threads here and hope eventually all will find their way. I'm trying now to contact people through their email but I'm finding not many people read it anymore. They are all into texting I think....But I'm sure some will pop in.
Morning to everyone! Yes, I agree, it's different when we're on the other side of the door.. There are many types of personalities in all groups, and given time, tend to prove themselves. I've met some really sweet ones, and there are always the few that can, with a type of a word, ruin your day. I've found some of the old DGers that I hadn't seen post for awhile, which was fun, although I don't know them well, it's always fun to read their posts.
As far as DG site goes, everyone has their 'comfy' spot. I liked it as it was the first real group I got to know. I was in the Plant files more at the beginning, but after a few that made me feel as my questions were stupid, or as one of them put "you really need to do your research first"... duh, why does say it's a Beginner group if I can't ask a more than basic question? So I found the quilting forums and decided that Plants wasn't the place for me. I've found other sites that are the same, but always fall back to DG, before all the current round of confusion, and am finally back to here.
Since this is a chat thread and since your names are all familiar to me from my days at DG long ago . . . I'm going to turn the mirror around and tell you something.
First I'm excited and happy that you are here in this cubit. A few years ago when DG went through its first upheaval and Dave started Cubits, I started this Sewing Cubit for all those that I knew from the threads at DG, just in case they needed a place to land while the dust settled. I knew it was here just for that reason, I thought it could be a place where you could all stay together.
When DG sort of leveled out again and most of you went back there, there was already a lot of great info here about sewing and quilting, so I left the Cubit open just to save all that information.
I still sew a lot, have always sewed, sewed my way through college and at one time I quilted. All of it I learned from my mother. To tell you the truth I have about 5 or 6 sewing machines right now, all in working order except one, and I still sew a lot --- but I haven't quilted since Mom passed in '96.
So on to the mirror I mentioned earlier. Confession time for me. . . I've always kept in touch with Barb one way or the other but the rest of you I barely know except for having always remembered the screen name you use. When I realized you needed a place to land, Barb and I talked and knew this Sewing Cubit would be an easy corner where you could stay in touch with each other with no interference from the outside world and no one lurking over your shoulder. I was really glad I'd saved this cubit, here you were needing a gathering place again. I'm also glad it is hard enough to find by outsiders because it keeps you from having many gawkers and lurkers.
When you got here and Barb started the Charm Quilt, oh boy, you all jumped right in and started gathering from your stash and cutting the squares and creating the pinwheels and putting them in place. I was stunned by your talent, I really was. You were all doing the most amazing quilt things and doing them quickly and doing them beautifully. I felt like I was on the outside looking in, I felt too intimidated to even try to participate. There is that mirror.
Kizmo felt intimidated when she was on the ATP Quilt thread looking in, and I felt intimidated when I was on this thread looking out at you. I don't even recognize quilting terms any more, I can't even begin to talk with you on your level. Think about it . . . I last quilted the year before Mom passed and she was gone by July '95. Twenty years. I don't know the quilting language, and I'm the one who lives about 15 minutes away from the International Quilt Show in Paducah Kentucky. Duh.
So i really do understand the feeling you have when you are looking for a way into a group and are met by people who are so self confident within their own friendships, you don't feel like you could ever belong. So I truly do understand. I think you all are the best of the best and I am the little old lady off in a corner too afraid to say a word.
I absolutely know you are NOT like that, nothing you've said or done would ever make me feel that way, but I am causing my own self to feel that intimidation, to me I'm the dim light bulb and you are the blinding LEDs that dazzle me.
So see how it works Kathy? It works both ways, that intimidation. But I'm getting over it and am watching very closely so that I can pick up the quilting terms and techniques that are second nature to you. One of these days I'll be able to enjoy your conversations, maybe even join them, but for the moment I am dazzled by you. I'm now to the point where I'm trying to figure out how to cut to make a pinwheel. See . . . I'm totally incompetent in your company.
I only tell you this because I wanted you to know that I might have posted on that other Quilt thread on ATP. Can't remember but I might have posted that picture of my quilt collection stored in the cabinet in my bedroom. But it's for sure you didn't see a quilt I made by myself in the last 20 years.
I remember a little about all of you, remember your names well and Barb keeps telling me to get over my insecurities .
And HA!! I even dug out a corner in the room where I stored my quilting fabrics and threads, old patterns, things like that, yesterday. Progress. Your ability has encouraged me to get that far. Once I find all my fabrics, and get them organized, you'll probably be well on your way to your third or fourth quilt.
Anyway, I do get terribly wordy at times, don't I? My point is that I am so glad you're here and this will be your spot as long as you want it. I hope things settle for you at DG if that's where you are happiest, but if that doesn't happen, again, this place right here is yours. You can start threads, whatever you need or want to do, it's your space. I'll stay close just in case you need technical help with this Cubit, or questions, or in case some whacko person steps foot in here and you want him gone. I can do that too, ban her/him from this Cubit.
But it's your blank slate and you can do whatever you want with it. I'm just the guy who'll open the door for you if you ever lose your key and can't find your way back in. And by the way for those who are newer, I was Sharran on DG, simply because when I joined somebody else had the Sharon name. Never saw her in all the years I was there, but never could get my own name till I got here.
ah, Sharon... you're such a godsend... even though inwardly I know all the things you've said, it's so much more comforting hearing the same from someone else! I have days where I can jump in some group and feel like I'm an equal, and then there are the days when I can't. Those are the days I usually don't post, as the words I type just don't come out the way I want. I have found that if I'm not feeling up to par, my posts can sound whiney or snarky and I certainly can't afford to make enemies these days.
I'm happy that you and Barb opened these Cubits for us! Barb also has the Chat thread, which is nice, as some days I can hijack a thread (like today) without meaning to. I've been on other quilt boards where someone will politely (or by wagging a finger) tell you to move to another thread and stick to the subject! Sounds like my Gma when she bowed her head and looked at us over her eyeglass frames...lol
Anyway.. I think I've read just about all the Aunt Bett stories at least twice, you should put these to print!
Kiz, I just wanted you to know that I totally understand how you feel. The thing is, there are no police on this cubit to tell you to stay on topic or to shake a finger in your face. I figure we are all grown up now and we can take care of ourselves. If anybody goes bonkers and snarks too loud, I might take them to a corner for a hug and say 'Now, now, honey' but that is not likely to happen. i'd gladly give you a hug, but I wouldn't take you to a corner. This thread/Cubit is yours. You do with it what you want.
The Aunt Bett articles are why I chose to leave DG in 2010. The writer's contract IB wanted me to sign clearly stated that IB would own the rights to everything I ever wrote anywhere. They would own the Aunt Bett name, everything, just because they paid me $50 for each article. I had wanted to compile all those A/B articles into a book, but they would have owned all the profits from the book.
The contract I had with Name Media during the Dave years allowed me to slightly rewrite those same articles and that would make them available to me to use anywhere else. But IB would have none of that. Even now they rerun all those old articles over and over again but I don't get a cent of any revenue. So I wouldn't sign a contract with them. As it stands now, I am 'slightly' rewriting those old articles and I am putting them into book form. They have no contract from me so my attorney son says they can't touch me. My contract was only ever with Name Media, the company before IB. Besides I think I'm a nonentity to them, just a speck on the wall and by now they won't even notice me. So I'm working on it. Thank you for your sweet words.
See how far off topic I can get? Ha! Nobody around to snark at me.
Ah Sharon, so many of us have read the Aunt Bett stories and would so love to have them published. I would love to have my children and grandchildren read them They have so much to learn from them and when I try to talk about things like where our food comes from I get the rolling eyes. A story form would be so great for them..
Kathy, this truly is a place we can call our own. I'm hoping others will join in.
Just letting you all know DG seems to be working again.... And there is no reason we can't be in both places. I have been for years now......