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Imagesacvalley
Jun 8, 2010 8:53 AM CST
Name: Jo Burcher
Wilton, CA
Married 40yrs. 2boys,2Gkids
Yesterday ended at 12:30 and today marked it's begingings at 3 and 6. The CPM machines should be on at least 6 hours, however, he's found that his foot begins to ache if it's not moving so he uses it longer. But the deal is he also needs time for ice, & you can't ice the knee while the machine is on.
Last night at 11 we decided he should at least stand up and move across the floor. That procedure alone was 25 minutes all told, and he was miserable. I'm looking forward to the PT lady today at 2.
This morning went much smoother, he said he's feeling a little better.
I'm really in a quandary about telling my friend how hard this recovery is. She's having the same surgery on the 17th; she's 75 yr old and her younger sister will be her care giver. She needs a new knee; but at what cost. Maybe I should have her come for a quick visit. She was a Navy nurse who served in the Korean War and Vietnam.
Imagekaglic
Jun 8, 2010 8:54 AM CST
Name: Kiska (Jackie)
Palmer, Alaska
aka Kiska at other sites
Love the photo~you'll be back there before summer's end:))
Perhaps the pre-op classe could come visit you and Steve for a "reality" check.
We'll be gone most of the morning and afternoon, so will call later.
aka Kiska at other sites
Imagekaglic
Jun 8, 2010 8:57 AM CST
Name: Kiska (Jackie)
Palmer, Alaska
aka Kiska at other sites
hi~crossed as I posted~
A few more long nights,then will you be able to skip the 3 am?
aka Kiska at other sites
ImageKvilleRider
Jun 8, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Name: Suzanne
Kelseyville, CA
Everyone I know who has had total knee replacement surgery (and I'm so old I know lots of people who need new knees) was up in a walker within days....Fred is much older and has had both knees replaced. I'm thinking if his was that bad he wouldn't have rushed to have the second knee done.

Whatever pain Steve is having is temporary. He will never have the knee pain he had prior to the surgery. Hardly comforting at this point, but true. Once his tissue heals he'll be so happy (of course the alcohol sales people will be unhappy because his caregiver will be having something different for dinner :-), but that is life.)

Does Steve have a drain in the knee area?

Your boys and their wives are AWESOME. They also are really smart!

I vote Yes - have Pat see what is going on.
\"If you do nothing there will be no result.\" Mahatma Gandhi
Imagesacvalley
Jun 8, 2010 10:46 AM CST
Name: Jo Burcher
Wilton, CA
Married 40yrs. 2boys,2Gkids
My patient is asleep. All the animals have been fed and I'm having a glass of milk.
I'm hoping today the big gauze bandage comes off so he can then bend the knee. Right now he's stiff legged.
He just keeps saying "what a disaster" "what a mistake." He's got himself so fearful of movement, that he's talking himself into not going to the doctor on Friday to have the staples removed. He says he'll just have the PT lady do it, of course, I want him to see the doctor just so I'm confident that things are going well.
Pat's coming over at 1:00 to see Steve; (her surgery is the 17).
ImageKvilleRider
Jun 8, 2010 12:45 PM CST
Name: Suzanne
Kelseyville, CA
Given Pat's other issue, I think she needs to visit Steve.

Larry did so well when he had the carpal tunnel surgery. Then he had the surgery on his nose - OMG you would have thought he had given birth to eight babies without drugs. Same day surgery, in recovery after 3 p.m. - out the door at 5 p.m. He was in agony. I stayed up with him all night. The next afternoon they removed the packing and the pain was so bad, as he put it, they could have removed his testicles and he wouldn't have noticed!

He said if he had known it would be that bad (compared to previous surgeries) he would have had them admit him.

Twerp never said thank you to me for staying up all night, just complained about not being in the hospital.

Come to think of it I don't believe he ever SAID to his wife NURSE during any recovery.

I vote (in the future) for having a paid nurse handle everything....well worth the expense to avoid the aggravation.
\"If you do nothing there will be no result.\" Mahatma Gandhi
Imagesacvalley
Jun 8, 2010 3:56 PM CST
Name: Jo Burcher
Wilton, CA
Married 40yrs. 2boys,2Gkids
PT lady has just left. Steve's doing fine, Yes it will hurt badly for about 2 wks. But he's doing fine. The Nurse will come out Friday to remove the staples. That's great news for me because I hadn't been looking forward to transporting him to the doctor's office.
Here's a photo of the incision and staples.

Thumbnail by sacvalley

Imagekaglic
Jun 8, 2010 4:47 PM CST
Name: Kiska (Jackie)
Palmer, Alaska
aka Kiska at other sites
OMGosh~what an incision~~~and he wonder's why he has pain:) wow.
What did Pat say?
Suzanne~his surgery sounds like something to avoid-what stress that must have been for you and L.
aka Kiska at other sites
ImageKvilleRider
Jun 8, 2010 5:54 PM CST
Name: Suzanne
Kelseyville, CA
Looks like Fred's scar. It looks pretty good....considering!

I thinking Steve should have checked out a website with knee replacement recipients' comments so this wasn't such a big surprise!
\"If you do nothing there will be no result.\" Mahatma Gandhi
Imagesacvalley
Jun 9, 2010 7:59 AM CST
Name: Jo Burcher
Wilton, CA
Married 40yrs. 2boys,2Gkids
I've finished my rounds and time for a Union break. With a cup of coffee in hand I went out and sat by the pond.
I believe that the eye-of-the-storm has past. I can see the reason why the post-op secret is kept; it's very painful, exhausting, and worry-some. Plus the anxiety level of both patient and spouse are high, all these together make for a hard time. I won't be one to keep this secret, if asked how it went "mum" will not be the word. On the same token, I wouldn't tell someone that you'd be better off with a painful bum knee for the rest of your life. I'll just let them know that it's a very hard couple of weeks.
In about 2 weeks this main recovery period will be behind us and I know we'll both be looking forward to summer plans.
ImageKvilleRider
Jun 9, 2010 9:49 AM CST
Name: Suzanne
Kelseyville, CA
I just wish people would be honest about the recovery.

Yes, it can be different for every person. However there should be full disclosure because of the expectation that the 'home health assistant' is to cope with this recovery.

I noticed, again, the title to this....wouldn't surprise me if someone thought it was a thread about marijuana!
\"If you do nothing there will be no result.\" Mahatma Gandhi
Imagekaglic
Jun 9, 2010 11:58 AM CST
Name: Kiska (Jackie)
Palmer, Alaska
aka Kiska at other sites
'morning~
Another night and I'm so glad you're by the pond to start the day.
Too funny, Kvillerider.
aka Kiska at other sites
ImageKvilleRider
Jun 10, 2010 9:13 PM CST
Name: Suzanne
Kelseyville, CA
It's been a week....any better.
Let him know Bob Potter took one pain pill after his knee replacement....guess old roughnecks are oblivious to pain!
\"If you do nothing there will be no result.\" Mahatma Gandhi
Imagesacvalley
Jun 14, 2010 9:55 AM CST
Name: Jo Burcher
Wilton, CA
Married 40yrs. 2boys,2Gkids
I'll say that this surgery has been for Steve 100% more painful than he had been lead to expect. I know that many people bounce back and take only one pain pill, others are out walking down the hall in two days. I wish we would have been told of the flip side; the person whose pain is so intense that he refuses to move, who is angry over having the surgery, wishes he would have left his knee alone. That guy needs to be spoke of in the pre-op class. I was shell-shocked as to what to do, and the stress only added to the problems.
Yesterday he came out of the bedroom, down the hall, and took the steps into the living room; watched his favorite shows, and on the way back to bed took a shower.Doing so has lifted his confidence so much that this morning he making his plans for day trip to the couch.
Don't think twice about the surgery as I'm sure if the doctor says you need it then you do; but don't think it's a simple procedure.
Imagenap
Jun 14, 2010 2:15 PM CST
Name: Nancy
Buffalo NY
Day trip to the couch! LOL!

You should probably suggest to "whoever" that, as you said, the flip side ought to be at least mentioned. Even if they say it is rare. At least if this happens again, the patient won't feel betrayed, or lied to.
Imagekaglic
Jun 14, 2010 2:35 PM CST
Name: Kiska (Jackie)
Palmer, Alaska
aka Kiska at other sites
Jo~glad to know Steve's made it down the steps-he'll be "reading" the paper in his favorite chair again.
aka Kiska at other sites
Imagesacvalley
Jun 18, 2010 3:11 PM CST
Name: Jo Burcher
Wilton, CA
Married 40yrs. 2boys,2Gkids
Well, here it is 2 weeks have gone by since the surgery. Steve now can bend his knee to 80 degrees; if he's not at 110 by the 29th of June then he'll need to go to Physical Therapy and they'll bend it for him. Most patients leave the hospital being able to make a 80 to 90 degree bend, and are no longer in need of a walker at the end of these two weeks.
He does as much excercise has possible and uses the CPM at all times. So he'll recover, but it's been very painful and slow.
An odd thing, the doctor told him this week that he's with the small percentage of patients that don't have a great recovery. He said it is three things that together put Steve in that catagory; Steve's physically strong, has always done Pilates, & lifts weights, he has a low tolerance for pain; and he doesn't trust that the replacement knee will hold him up. He has to man-up and take the pain & find the confidence that the knee is strong.
Glad I'm not him, because I can see that it's not a cake walk.
One more thing, as a care giver, don't get up in the middle of the night and go over to the medicine table and take a few aspirin; because they just might be stool softeners.
Imagenap
Jun 18, 2010 8:03 PM CST
Name: Nancy
Buffalo NY
Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
Imagekaglic
Jun 18, 2010 8:12 PM CST
Name: Kiska (Jackie)
Palmer, Alaska
aka Kiska at other sites
oh Jo~~~
aka Kiska at other sites
Californiagirl
Jun 19, 2010 8:15 PM CST
Aunt Jo:

I have been following this story since you started this thread. I would have written sooner but I had to create a username and figured that it would just be one more thing I would have to remember. But, I finally decided I wanted to write here so I bit the bullet and hope my memory is good.

First off, I am glad that Uncle Steve is doing better. I can see that he still has a long road ahead of him, but I know he can do this. He is hard-headed and stubborn, so hopefully in this instance that will work in his favor.

Second, you are an angel taking such good care of him. Once this is all said and done I hope that he finds a way to show you just how much your care and tolerance helped him through all of this. I only hope that if I ever need medical care that I have someone half as kind and patient as you have been.

Third, I LOVE your writing. I enjoy your stories, sarcasm, humor, all of it. While I hope that Uncle Steve has a speedy recovery, I do hope that I can keep coming back here and reading more from you.

And finally, in my wildest dreams I never would have thought he would do pilates. Now that is an image to keep in my mind!!

Thank you so much for keeping us in the loop.

love, Corrie

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