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ImageDonkeyJay
Jun 23, 2011 9:02 PM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
Ouch!
One more thing... don't let the old dogs bully the new one. Divert w/treats & obedience if a word isn't enough, do a quick puppy push-up: sit-down-sit.

I sure like those Anatolians. How many do you have again?

River's got a new crate, & I'm really hoping it works to keep her quieter at night, no more running to the window & barking. Oh! & look... a new level surface. Lessee, if I cut a piece of plywood & paint it, then I can put stuff there. Hilarious!
I have little confidence in any enterprise or business or investment that promises dividends only after the death of the stockholders.
lakesidecallas
Jun 23, 2011 10:36 PM CST
Name: Susan B
East TN
Crates are great for holding stuff! You can pile clothes on top, etc.

I only have one now, it's my third one. Jake died in 2003 and Puppy died last fall. They (usually) are long-lived for big dogs, 12-16 years.

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Actually that was after his cancer surgery, when a lot of his fur was shaved off. He was a big celebrity in our neighborhood because he was such a big dog, about 31 inches at the shoulder. When we went for walks, we'd start off with him dragging me down the street, he would do that for miles until we turned around, then I'd have to drag him home. The neighbors thought that was hysterical.
And smart! We were walking down a sidewalk and a squirrel ran in front of us and up a tree, several weeks later we passed by that same street and he stopped and was looking up in the tree. He remembered the exact tree.

Anatolians are livestock guardians. They lay out in the fields and protect the flock from predators.

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AlohaHoya
Jun 23, 2011 11:10 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Maybe that should be my next dog.... so big NO one will dare come in to steal from us and loving to have a friend. And not a bird killer...so we can have chickens.

Louise (my former dog) and her sister Thelma (whom we still enjoy) are part 'birders' and nothing is safe here. Louise had a wonderful smile that the locals took as menacing...she scared more than one group off!!!!
Leap. The net will appear.
Imagesheryl
Jun 24, 2011 7:00 AM CST
Name: Sheryl
Middle Tennessee, 6b
I'm becoming more and more fond of those kind of "smiles" on dogs as I get older, lol.

Oh geez, don't get me hooked on another breed of dog.... Our latest is a Bassett Hound that both Teddy and I are absolutely in love with.

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Might as well face it - there's few breeds I don't adore.
ImageDonkeyJay
Jun 24, 2011 8:36 AM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
I had a friend that had Anatolians to protect her milk goats & that's when I first enjoyed their company. Lovely dogs.

There's an alpaca farm up the road that has Great Pyrenees to guard the alpacas. They didn't think they were doing anything for a living 'cause they just laid around in the shade and slept all day... 'til one day they came out & found a rottweiler head on the porch. Yeah, when you're up all night guarding the flock, you gotta catch your 'Z's' during the day.

Research has shown, for a "guard dog" to make the bad guys pause, a black dog is best. They actually interviewed incarcerated felons & they were much more leery of black dogs. I know my black lab/golden cross certainly worried folks, & he was the biggest love sponge. And yeah, his smile--those big white teeth particularly highlighted in a black face--was often taken as warning.

My pit would probably try to play w/those tortoises. I can well imagine her picking them up & rolling them with her nose.

Our night was much more peaceful w/River in a crate; everybody slept very well, thank you. Hurray!
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ImageRidesredmule
Jun 24, 2011 8:48 AM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida
Walk in Peace.
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Basset hound and Dachshund, this is Lucas Dufess. Mostly Dufess, he is so silly but a sweet dog...
lakesidecallas
Jun 24, 2011 9:36 AM CST
Name: Susan B
East TN
I love all dogs, too- I used to be a big dog person until we got our small dog, she's the sweetest of the bunch!

My dogs would probably chase chickens, but I think if they were brought up together it would be OK. Our ASD female was in a kennel for a month before we got her, so she is very barky and has taught the other dogs that. I also learned she goes crazy when she hears or sees a motorcycle- she went ballistic in the car one day. They've all learned what interests me and that's what they bark at. We have some low flying helicopters that come by, and F something jets that swoop by very low too. I would start running out on the porch to look at them, now all the dogs run out too and bark like crazy. Their latest thing is barking at hawks or turkey buzzards circling overhead. It bugs my husband but I think it is a good thing, as we lost 2 roosters to hawks this spring.

Jake would lay out in the yard and the tortoises would try to sneak up on him, they'd get pretty close, and he'd whip his head around to see them, then jump up and go lay down somewhere else. But when the Beagle next door would come to the fence and bark and try to get at the tortoises, Jake would bound over and stand between the tortoises and the other dog.

Those Bassets are so cute! I like the white tipped tail. Hi Charleen ,that is a a great photo with Lucas and the chicken! I've never been around a Basset, really, my husband used to have them and likes them a lot.

That's interesting about black dogs being more threatening. Our dogs look pretty fierce when they run out to the end of the porch that faces the driveway and bark, they also jump up and down and move around a lot. H always tells people "oh, they never go off the porch, don't worry" and "they're just big babies"- he tells even strangers! I always yell at him about that, leave 'em guessing is what I say!
ImageDonkeyJay
Jun 24, 2011 10:29 AM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
Yeah, it's not that they are more threatening, it's that they APPEAR more threatening. Cool. I think it's cause the dark color accentuates the GREAT BIG TEETH. Hilarious!

So get a big, goomy rottie, Carol. Make the bad guys pee their pants. Big Grin

Then again, the propane guy used to be afraid of our sheltie... Rolling my eyes.
I have little confidence in any enterprise or business or investment that promises dividends only after the death of the stockholders.
ImageRidesredmule
Jun 24, 2011 10:56 AM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida
Walk in Peace.
There is a rescue place in Foysyth that had a report that Black dogs are the hardest dog to get rid of. Didn't say why. But most black dogs are beautiful. Look at a black Lab retriever. I think they are beautiful. Maybe they are too intimindating. I don't think so. I love them all, makes no difference to me.
AlohaHoya
Jun 24, 2011 11:05 AM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
I reckon it will be a poi dog next. (poi=an edible paste made out of taro...to which people add this and that = mix).

My Bassett/GreatDane cross (body by Bassett, head/coat/tail by GD), Clyde, was so funny. If anyone laughed at him (and we WAS very laughable) he slunk away and would NEVER go near them again... He hid behind bushes when he 'escaped' the house and waited for us to give up looking for him before he trotted off to visit the neighbours!

I try to steer clear of 'highly bred' dogs like Rotties and Pitbulls - goldens, labs, etc. but like 'specific mixes'... Whistling
Leap. The net will appear.
ImageDonkeyJay
Jun 24, 2011 11:47 AM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
We just tend to take what comes to us in the bully family, generally a mix of some sort. Half bully breed, half fence jumper. Big Grin
I have little confidence in any enterprise or business or investment that promises dividends only after the death of the stockholders.
lakesidecallas
Jun 24, 2011 12:34 PM CST
Name: Susan B
East TN
Do you have a photo of Clyde? His pedigree just boggles the mind!
Imagesheryl
Jun 24, 2011 12:59 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Middle Tennessee, 6b
I imagine Clyde would be an amazing looking dog... what a sensitive guy!
ImageRidesredmule
Jun 24, 2011 1:08 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida
Walk in Peace.
Yes, I can't imagine.
Imagewoofie
Jun 24, 2011 1:47 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA zone 5a
Anyone got any tips for teaching a 3-year old Great Pyr to keep her sharp little claws to herself? She's mostly a sweetie (a rescue we got a little over 6 months ago), but she is really bad about putting her paws up on you and oh my does she have nasty claws! We trimmed them, but it's still a problem.
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
ImageRidesredmule
Jun 24, 2011 2:43 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida
Walk in Peace.
I read if you walk into the dog and sort of knock it off balance it will teach them to not jump. I tried it on Dufess but has not helped a lot yet.
You take a step forward just as they start to jump up. they are not showing you respect when they jump up.
Welllllll, Dufess still a Dufess....
ImageDonkeyJay
Jun 24, 2011 2:54 PM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
Unless it's a pit... then it's just fun to get knocked around. Rolling my eyes.

Is she jumping on you? Is it out of excitement? Play? How's her obedience?
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ImageDonkeyJay
Jun 24, 2011 4:26 PM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
A note about the training treats we use...

We use a LOT of positive training, which means a LOT of food rewards. The rewards don't need to be big--about the size of the nail on your little finger--but, especially when training over an old behavior like jumping or pawing at you, they do need to be VERY high value.

We use real meat cut into tiny pieces... chicken or beef. We buy the family packs on sale, boil, chill & slice/dice. We fill those snack baggies & freeze 'em. As we need them, we put a bag in the fridge. We take some out & put it in our treat bag that we wear during training sessions.

We also use low value treats... Charlee Bear's, or Pet Botanics work for us. Low value treats are for those readily offered behaviors, reviewing sit, down, stay, that sort of thing.

We also use jerky, but the downside to that is expense & the dog tends to chew it. Useful if you're waiting your turn in a class or something, PIA if you're working fast or want to rapidly give treats, say for heeling work. The jerky is also given in small bits, but it's usually breakable, so we don't cut it up.

There's two ways to reward... piece by piece, for just about everything, & 'jackpot' for those special moments, like the first few times they offer a desired behavior (eg sitting & looking at you) over an old behavior (barking), or in the midst of serious distraction (everybody else is jumping around). A jackpot is several pieces of High Value treat.

Not to mention the general verbal enthusiasm... Big Grin

I make it a habit when buying ready-made treats to avoid those w/soy (most of 'em) as soy often causes gas problems & though it doesn't bother the dog, that's really not the way I want to die. Hilarious!
I have little confidence in any enterprise or business or investment that promises dividends only after the death of the stockholders.
AlohaHoya
Jun 24, 2011 4:28 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Sometime electric collars are a blessing!!!! With my son's dog (a lab) I suddenly turn around and give her my back and she stops jumping up on me...but since I'm the only one who does it, she jumps on everyone else!!!!
Leap. The net will appear.
lakesidecallas
Jun 24, 2011 4:38 PM CST
Name: Susan B
East TN
We use uh-uh a lot. Also a small bottle of bitter apple, made by Grannick's. It's actually a plant & leaf protector so that animals don't chew on indoor plants, but we were told about it in a puppy class once upon a time. It has a bad taste, and puts a pretty fast stop to bad behavior. After a while all you'll have to do is shake the bottle or say, "I'll get the spray!" Hilarious!

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