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ImageMistirose
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
well you are quite the perplexing little thing arent you? lol I would try maybe repotting it and see if you see any critters and such or if its rootbound and so on. do a root examination Blinking
ImageMistirose
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
From what I have read Bit most Fruit trees from seed are 3-5 years but with the size hers is maybe a year or two sooner. Bit you can grow one from those seeds Whistling
lorsparky
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Lori
Dallas, Tx
Bitbit - Yes, a pomegranate tree. I love pomegranates too! I saw it and I just *knew* I had to have it. LOL I figured it'd be ok indoors for about a year before I get a yard (I can't wait until that day!). I'm not really sure how old it is but I'd think at least 3 years from it's size.

Misti - I'm think I might have to... again... this would be the second time repotting everything. Any tips for preventing shock? They didn't seem like like it too much last time.
Imagebitbit
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: bit
Eastern VA and NC
Zone 7b/8a
Misti, yes, I could grow one from seed. But I really don't have room for any more trees or large shrubs. I need more land first!

I also didn't think they'd be hardy here, but I just looked and saw that they're hardy to zone 7! Great, now you've added something else to the "I want" list Whistling
ImageMistirose
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
LOL Im such a bad influence. Lori, I think the shock may have been a combo between the neem, gnat battles and repotting. Try not to disturb your roots too much when you take it out and put it in some fresh non miracle grow soil lol
Imagestormyla
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Lori, If you bought some of those plants, you could very well have brought insects home from the nursery in the soil or on the plants. iIve had that happen before. Now I give all plants that are to come into my house a complete insect cleaning before bringing them into the house.
lorsparky
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Lori
Dallas, Tx
I know a bit more about soils now so I *think* I can come up with a better mix. I'm not in a pinch to get new soil like I was before - I was moving it from a soil that held way too much water before and was waterlogging my plants. LOL The battle continues. ;)
lorsparky
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Lori
Dallas, Tx
Stormy, what do you mean? How do you do an insect cleaning? I am thinking no more indoor plants that didn't start out as seed from now on.
ImageMistirose
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
I know you should keep them in quaranteen but I would say take them out side, change the soil maybe rinse the roots. Thats what I do.
ImageMistirose
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
ohhh good Thank you!
lorsparky
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Lori
Dallas, Tx
Stormy - I saw you mentioned cold-pressed neem oil in the mix. I had bought some neem from a nearby nursery and have had nothing but problems spraying it on my plants; I've tried twice now. The kind I got was by the company Green Light. I followed the directions for mixing it exactly and a few of my plants end up wilting and dying on me after being sprayed. To my knowledge, none of them are particularly sensitive to neem. Any thoughts?
Imagestormyla
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Lori, I have never heard of Neem harming a plant before. I really have used it on just about every kind of plant and on every part of plants including exposed and bare roots and have never had any adverse effects from it. Sorry but i can't help yopu with that one. The only thing I could suggest is diluting it more than what the manufacturer suggests. It's possible that they are recommending too strong a MIX.
lorsparky
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Lori
Dallas, Tx
The mix listed is 2-4 tbsp/gallon. I did 2 because I was worried about the effects it had from the first time when I used more.

On another note, one of my pea plants just up and died. I pulled it up this morning and realized there were dozens of tiny white eggs on it! What type of insect does this? My first thought is the fungus gnats since the larvae like to eat roots, but they look almost too big to be fungus gnat eggs. Hmmmm... I can't wait to get to the store tomorrow so I can get new soil! I will be giving them all your bath, too. I am worried about the adults I may miss - some have flown into the kitchen, bedroom, and bathroom (not a lot, but a couple I have seen). Should the neem kill them if they come back to the plant after it's sprayed? Also, what kind of soap do you recommend? I've heard using antibacterial soap is a no no.

Also, I wanted to say thank you for all the help! It's been a rough start and I really appreciate your kindness and helpfulness!
lorsparky
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Lori
Dallas, Tx
Here's a picture of the roots w/eggs.

Thumb of 2011-06-10/lorsparky/18c017
ImageMistirose
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
Are you seeing any little black spots on leaves?
lorsparky
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Lori
Dallas, Tx
No black spots. Some leaves on other plants have spots about half the size of my pinky or smaller on them that looks like something has eaten away at it (kind of translucent), but nothing odd about the pea leaves.
ImageMistirose
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
I sent you a link to Shore Flies in FB chat

http://www.entomology.umn.edu/cues/inter/inmine/Fliess.html

However it says they dont really do any damage to plants so not sure if thats these or not.
lorsparky
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Lori
Dallas, Tx
That could be the larger flies I'm seeing, but the place where the eggs are laid by those flies isn't consistent with the eggs I found today.
lorsparky
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Lori
Dallas, Tx
I was reading up a bit on cabbage maggots - maybe that could be what they are?? It would explain why it's attacking my peas, and the larger flies that I've been seeing. No idea how they'd have gotten in though - the plants I bought aren't one of the plants they lay eggs on. Perhaps through an open door or a crack someplace?

Here's the best picture I could get... not very clear, probably not helpful, but I thought I'd post it just in case. Hard to get a picture of these!!

Thumb of 2011-06-10/lorsparky/5cbc8e
Imagestormyla
Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Lori, That could be those little flies that show up in mass in June and like to fly in groups inside of your house near the windows and lights. They usually live for a few days and die. Are you finding a bunch of dead ones near lamps and windows? Then they disappear after about two weeks until the next year.

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